[gamma911]

Hey guys,

Anyone have any suggestions why IE is messing up with padding?

In FF and Opera when I set padding:0px; it fixes a problem on the front page of a test site im doing.

I've been thrown into the deep end here as I do not have access to the HTML only the CSS, so if you have a suggestion bear that in mind.

The test site is *****snip

Ive attached 2 images so that you can see the problem.

Also - on the navbar the text color property does not carry through to IE.

I shudder to think what it looks like in IE5!

Any help / comments even in general of the look and feel would be appreciated!

C

[Dusteh]

Have you tried resetting everything first to remove browser-specific settings?

* { padding: 0px; margin: 0px; }

[pgo]

Hard to tell without seeing the code.

Originally Posted by Dusteh

Have you tried resetting everything first to remove browser-specific settings?

* { padding: 0px; margin: 0px; }

I've actually started using Yahoo! UI Library: Reset CSS

All you got to do is link to it. I've just started importing it at the beginning of my screen stylesheets.

[Blue Ire]

Probably a positioning issue with your code. 9 out of 10 times an 'IE' problem is actually poor code - FF just does a better job of fixing it.

[pgo]

Uh...how do you figure? Firefox is usually more accurate to the code. IE does more "fixing" than any other browser. That's why we hate it so much.

Either way, there's really no telling unless we get a link and see some code.

[b v]

Originally Posted by pgo

I've actually started using Yahoo! UI Library: Reset CSS

All you got to do is link to it. I've just started importing it at the beginning of my screen stylesheets.

what about eric's?

[Blue Ire]

Originally Posted by pgo

Uh...how do you figure? Firefox is usually more accurate to the code. IE does more "fixing" than any other browser. That's why we hate it so much.

Might want to look into browser logic before you bander such statements around. FireFox will often correct errant code, where as IE will not. FireFox renders code correctly more often than IE, but it''s error checking is creating a flotilla of users whining at IE when it is in fact their lack of good code.

For examples sake, take a span element inside a complete document and close it with a div tag. IE will break while FF will render as intended.

Either way, as said above, the code would need to be seen for any real help can be offered.

[gamma911]

Hi thanks for the replies - the code is at

edit - -

[pgo]

Originally Posted by b v

what about eric's?

Meh. The difference wasn't big enough for me to have to manage another stylesheet. Now all I need to do is link to Yahoo!'s.

Originally Posted by Blue Ire

Might want to look into browser logic before you bander such statements around. FireFox will often correct errant code, where as IE will not. FireFox renders code correctly more often than IE, but it''s error checking is creating a flotilla of users whining at IE when it is in fact their lack of good code.

For examples sake, take a span element inside a complete document and close it with a div tag. IE will break while FF will render as intended.

Either way, as said above, the code would need to be seen for any real help can be offered.

Proof, please. From a reputable source. I'm a busy man. I don't have time to "look into browser logic".

[microdesign]

haha same here!!!! i hate all those browsers as well

[encryptocat]

Originally Posted by gamma911

Hi thanks for the replies - the code is at

campbeltowntest.pressflex.com

start over. there are way to many divs and random tables when there are lots of other logical tags that should be used, and the css is all over the place. You may also want to look into css shorthand. Your issues are most likely coming from how complicated you made this relatively simple design.

[jase1000]

Originally Posted by pgo

Proof, please. From a reputable source. I'm a busy man. I don't have time to "look into browser logic".

PGO, using the rolleyes smiley every time you get into a debate that you don't fancy is really condescending and lazy.

I'm quite interested in what this guy has to say, he seems to know what he's talking about but I don't have the expertise to say whether he's right or wrong. I know you're a bit of a CSS guru so let's see a proper debate.

[gamma911]

Thanks for the 3 on topic replies from encryptocat, blue ire, dusteh I find this forum has difficulty to stay on topic and some users like PGO just spoil it for everyone else - sorry but this is an impartial view from a newbie - so regulars might want to look at the way they answer new threads.

[asterix]

Most browsers for some ungod known reason choose to interperate html (like the most basic code on the planet) differently. Who knows why. The W3 make standards so that this soft of stuff doesn't happen. Microsoft thought they were bigger and could do what they like which is why we have to spend so much time twatting with browsers and browser code.
Its getting better with the new browser releases. Firefox has always been w3 compliant which is why it is generally a more trusted browser by developers. But at the end of the day - you have to make amends for the weaker browsers out there too.

[ArcticFox]

Hello,
Yes - IE is really nut it will never go with firefox or opera.

Try using two IE one for IE and the other for firefox

So to config them use 'if IE' the code are below

<!--[if IE]>
(put your ie css code here)
<![endif]-->