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Old 15-10-2006, 19:31   #1 (permalink)
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basic guide for current web standards. (good for noobs or reference)

Hi all, thought it would be good to create a general thread for current web design standards.

This is what i got so far, feel free to add to this..

Site layout

Tables are no longer needed! XHTML and CSS is the perfect method for content placement.
Learn basic XHTML, how tabs and divs work.

XHTML

Learn CSS, and how to change the look of divs and tags direct with CSS, I still see sites now, even on this forum with CSS not properly implemented on web design sites, people should not be offering design services if they cant master this technique !, it is strongly advised to master this as this will make life a lot easier in the long run when designing sites, the net is never gonna get any prettier if people dont start getting with the times :P

CSS

Master the use of PHP includes and make your content dynamic and easy to update, this is not an necessity but again makes life a lot easier when updating content.

PHP Includes

embedding flash

Scrap the idea of the standard swf embed method, this doesnt work on all browsers, master how to use this method and use this from now on..

SWFObject


Thats all i can be arsed to type for now... feel free to add.
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Old 15-10-2006, 20:08   #2 (permalink)
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Tables are no longer needed! XHTML and CSS is the perfect method for content placement.
Learn basic XHTML, how tabs and divs work.

Tables are no longer needed for layouts. They're perfectly fine for displaying tabular data.
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Old 18-10-2006, 05:19   #3 (permalink)
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I think it's a little brazen to just say "learn css".

Rather, learn how to design. Follow some basic principles of layout and readability, and you might just get a gold star.

Learning CSS is not exactly a sit down and do kind of thing, it happens over time, and is mostly a process born of design. There are some fundamental principles but a lot of CSS you will barely find use for.
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Old 18-10-2006, 05:46   #4 (permalink)
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I think it's a little brazen to just say "learn css".

You could also say it's brazen to have a title saying it's good for "noobs" (hate that word), and then just link off to a bunch of generic reference sites without actually giving anything of much use at all.

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In fact, I just checked the original posters website and it's some godawful flash site. What a surprise.
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Old 18-10-2006, 11:18   #5 (permalink)
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I'm so sick of hearing "You should learn to make your website with CSS and divs."

For fuck's sake, divs don't matter. You could use <p>s to the same exact effect. People get confused and think <div>s are a layout device - that they replace table cells - when that's not the point at all.

Semantic HTML. XHTML or HTML4 Strict are both fine as long as they're used semantically and without presentation bundled into markup (of course, you do sometimes have to add to your markup to get the effect you want, but should be kept to a minimum).
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Old 19-10-2006, 14:34   #6 (permalink)
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I'm so sick of hearing "You should learn to make your website with CSS and divs."

For fuck's sake, divs don't matter. You could use <p>s to the same exact effect. People get confused and think <div>s are a layout device - that they replace table cells - when that's not the point at all.

Semantic HTML. XHTML or HTML4 Strict are both fine as long as they're used semantically and without presentation bundled into markup (of course, you do sometimes have to add to your markup to get the effect you want, but should be kept to a minimum).


Damn, I thought I was confused before.
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Old 19-10-2006, 15:05   #7 (permalink)
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outsource the lot. pub. sorted.
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Old 19-10-2006, 15:25   #8 (permalink)
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PS - it's good that you've changed your tune from all-flash in such a short space of time
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