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Old 17-03-2005, 18:20   #1 (permalink)
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Are You a Real Web Designer???

This thread sucks...

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Old 17-03-2005, 18:41   #2 (permalink)
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Old 17-03-2005, 18:45   #3 (permalink)
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It was an ice-breaker dude... I didn't mean to come across as a show off - my bad.
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Old 17-03-2005, 19:17   #4 (permalink)
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I've been doing it professionally since 1997 so yes, I am a real Web designer.
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Old 17-03-2005, 19:32   #5 (permalink)
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whats a web designer?

I use publisher ...does that count!
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Old 17-03-2005, 20:19   #6 (permalink)
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whats a web designer?

I use publisher ...does that count!

You can graduate to front page soon :p
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Old 17-03-2005, 20:49   #7 (permalink)
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Old 17-03-2005, 21:05   #8 (permalink)
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Old 17-03-2005, 21:21   #9 (permalink)
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Old 17-03-2005, 22:05   #10 (permalink)
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hats off to Rakan. He's a real web designer.
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Old 17-03-2005, 22:55   #11 (permalink)
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no, he's a veteran.

[edit]talking of which, i took the dog to the vet today to get her tubes tied. she's not happy with me tonight. oh well...[/edit]

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Old 18-03-2005, 01:20   #12 (permalink)
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Talent is more important than experience though. (fortunately my clients think I've got both).

I know of designers that have been designing Web sites longer than me that are absolute wank and I know of designers that have been designing Web sites 1/3 the time of me that are fantastic.

Have you actually got any talent Rakan?
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Old 18-03-2005, 03:55   #13 (permalink)
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web design IS A SCIENCE!!!!! It involves ... programming

In that case i'm not a web designer. Damn it.
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Old 18-03-2005, 06:30   #14 (permalink)
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web design IS A SCIENCE!!!!! It involves artistic skills...

You know what's hilarious about this?

"Scientific" is an antonym of "artistic".
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Old 18-03-2005, 07:52   #15 (permalink)
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Science? should I wear safety goggles, maybe invest in a bunsen burner.
print designers don't know how to strip a four plate press and oil it's rolling axles, web designers don't need to know how to programme, surely thats why we have programmers - as for psyhcology and marketing how about we leave that to the psychologists and marketing proffesionals. To me sounds like your describing a jack of all trades which runs the risk of being master of none
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Old 18-03-2005, 08:02   #16 (permalink)
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web design IS A SCIENCE!!!!! It involves artistic skills, engineering (layout and structure), programming (functionality), psyhcology and marketing (design and marketing aspects)

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Old 18-03-2005, 10:41   #17 (permalink)
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Apparently many people here would rather make judgements than try and understand my point... My point is this, there is a lot more to web design than learning to use the shadow effect on Photoshop and putting the image on FrontPage... I was merely expressing that it pisses me off when I see people that fit that description sit with me saying "hey, I'm a web designer." Maybe he/she DOES web design, but my point was that it takes a lot more to consider yourself an actual designer. If no one agrees with me that's fine, I guess there's a lot more shadow effect designers out there than I thought.

And I agree with d*d about the jack of all trades.... It can lead to being master of none. But if you've ever worked on a web design team, you'd know that it takes at least SOME understanding of each to make things more efficient. You can't overcomplicate a useless design that a programmer has to lace code into without knowing a bit about how it works. Ever try creating a themed, database-driven website without knowing how a programmer would turn your design into an actually usable design?? Marketing is also something a designer should know a tiny bit about at the least... How can you design an effective website for a psychotherapist and use black as the base color?? Pcyshology - black reflects depression and misery... not something a psychotherapist wants to invite his clients to... There has to be SOME knowledge about different areas. Don't tell me that as a web designer you know nothing about graphic design... otherwise you'd just be a layout designer or a programmer....

To be quite honest, only a couple of you actually seem mature enough... the rest just want to pull each other's hair and give each other wedgies. Grow up.
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Old 18-03-2005, 10:41   #18 (permalink)
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haha. Those wedgy-pullers certainly got your knickers in a twist.
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Old 18-03-2005, 10:50   #19 (permalink)
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dude, you're preaching to the wrong people. this is also an argument that's been covered here many times before.

i'd like to see your website.
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Old 18-03-2005, 10:52   #20 (permalink)
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I'd be interested to see what kinda of sites you produce. I think we are all aware of whats involved in web design, hence a lot of joshing in replies.

Your profile says and I qoute.." WeB DeSiGN, WeB DeSiGN, WeB DeSiGN, WeB DeSiGN, WeB DeSiGN, WeB DeSiGN, WeB DeSiGN, WeB DeSiGN, WeB DeSiGN, WeB DeSiGN, WeB DeSiGN"

yet you don't share the fruits of your apparent love for it.

be alittle more open and less condescending in your posts and people may respond a little differently.

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