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dorian · 10-07-2003, 04:12

Redesign time!
I've come up with a new look for my portfolio site... an annual event.
i-ll-i v3
The image is kind of a temporary one - but the concept is to have a random image every time (never seen that one before, eh?

). I still have some doubts about the menu. The four two letter words on the right are supposed to be language option... Might have to find another solution for that. Also not sure if I should include them at all: they are 'odd' languages anyway (polish, danish, greek) (english?). Critique, comments etc would be much appreciated.
(I know it's not a marvel when it comes to coding either)

smallbeer · 10-07-2003, 04:25

I like the idea of the navigation going along the bottom but have you looked at it at res below 1024 though?

That white block on the tab below commercial work, non-commercial etc is annoying me too!

Not sure about the big block of text either. It either needs formatting better or shortening - your work can do the talking

Jamie

Stickman · 10-07-2003, 04:32

I like that. The way the menu categories highlight before you select a specific option is nice. I'd look at using your stylesheet better though.

This:
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
<div id="nav" style="position:absolute; width:100%; height:auto; bottom:0px; z-index:2; visibility: visible;">

if you put the style in the stylesheet, can be this:
<body>
<div id="nav">

At 800x600 it looks really good here, dunno what happens to smallbeer's.

I really like it.

dorian · 10-07-2003, 04:42

smallbeer: ?
it should scale 'nicely' on lower resolutions.(?) still no scrolling on 800x600.
the white block... hmm.... it's supposed to make it [not] look like a button. have a version without them somewhere.
the text is probably too much... (also will mean less for me to translate!)

dorian · 10-07-2003, 04:48

stickman: er... i dont think i've put the style in the stylesheet...

not too sure how to do that... will see.

Mr Fred · 10-07-2003, 04:56

nice dorian.

couple of things

1. put a bloody title on the page

2. the grey at the very bottom is way to close to white - very little contrast
3. introduce some paragraph line height - the text seems rather packed
4. what about each link having a differnet hover background colour (thats just imo)

nice though.

haven't i seen that image somewhere else though

smallbeer · 10-07-2003, 04:59

Sorry forgot I was using Netscape.

Screenshot: http://webpages.inf.brad.ac.uk/~jpit...n_netscape.gif

Stickman · 10-07-2003, 05:05

The two bits I mentioned would look like this in your stylesheet, so you wouldn't need the same information in your html:

body {
background:#fff;
margin:0;
padding:0;
}

#nav {
position:absolute;
width:100%;
height:auto;
bottom:0;
z-index:2;
}

If you want to do some reading/learning:
http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/
http://www.mako4css.com/
http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/propindex/all.htm

dan · 10-07-2003, 05:16

I like, and the appearence of terquoise plastic always makes my heart skip a beet

LIke the overall feel, though the top feels a bit empty, which could be a good thing, depends on how you use the space in the other areas of the site.

The base navigation is nice, like the way the whole bar highlights. I agree with Mik there, maybe each different bar could highlight a different colour/shade of the same colour.

I don't see that the languages are obscure. No matter what language you translate to it'll increace your audience + show an extra talent (I'm guessing you speak these languages). I think it may need to be a bit more obvious though, or pointed out at an intro stage/on the first page.

dorian · 10-07-2003, 05:24

thanks stickman

never spend enough time building = slow learning curve...
japanmike:
the grey gets highlighted afterall when you hover...
no, you have not seen this picture anywhere else...
different colour hover bgs? no! you do that to your website

Mr Fred · 10-07-2003, 05:35

some people just will not learn

dorian · 10-07-2003, 05:36

the thing is, i'm not trying to promote myself as a translator

but i'm 'being told' it matters...
i'm still not sure.

dorian · 10-07-2003, 05:38

japanmik: do you mean will or will?

Mr Fred · 10-07-2003, 06:16

dorian · 10-07-2003, 06:17

dorian · 10-07-2003, 17:19

does anyone else have an opinion about the language options? would be much appreciated.

dan · 10-07-2003, 18:24

The only thing I think is that if you are going to use them you need to draw more attention to them. Boxes, Highlights, the words change language... something to show what they are. With them not being usual languages it makes the whole section a bit cryptic, I had trouble finding them even when you told me they were there

dorian · 11-07-2003, 05:04

Mr Fred · 11-07-2003, 05:36

you are based in europe so you need them -its the law

ways of doing it. there are two ways

1. set character set to unicode and type in there language

2. use images set in ther language

no flag, no english ( ie french, dutch ),

dorian · 11-07-2003, 08:19

I definitely wasn't going for flags.
just the dilema is how to display the language options - the abbreviations look probably too cryptical.
I can think of two different options:
1) A popup where people could select a language = dodgy, isn't it?
2) Incorporating the options into the navbar. Maybe with a dropdown - but then such a button would need to have a name - in what language? What if ie some polish person doesn't know what the word 'language' means?
Including full names of the languages would clutter the menu.
Popup might be the best options.

10-07-2003, 04:12	#1 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	i-ll-i v3 comments please Redesign time! I've come up with a new look for my portfolio site... an annual event. i-ll-i v3 The image is kind of a temporary one - but the concept is to have a random image every time (never seen that one before, eh? ). I still have some doubts about the menu. The four two letter words on the right are supposed to be language option... Might have to find another solution for that. Also not sure if I should include them at all: they are 'odd' languages anyway (polish, danish, greek) (english?). Critique, comments etc would be much appreciated. (I know it's not a marvel when it comes to coding either) __________________ ...

10-07-2003, 04:25	#2 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,236	I like the idea of the navigation going along the bottom but have you looked at it at res below 1024 though? That white block on the tab below commercial work, non-commercial etc is annoying me too! Not sure about the big block of text either. It either needs formatting better or shortening - your work can do the talking Jamie __________________ That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch.

10-07-2003, 04:42	#4 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	smallbeer: ? it should scale 'nicely' on lower resolutions.(?) still no scrolling on 800x600. the white block... hmm.... it's supposed to make it [not] look like a button. have a version without them somewhere. the text is probably too much... (also will mean less for me to translate!) __________________ ...

10-07-2003, 04:48	#5 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	stickman: er... i dont think i've put the style in the stylesheet... not too sure how to do that... will see. __________________ ...

10-07-2003, 04:59	#7 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,236	Sorry forgot I was using Netscape. Screenshot: http://webpages.inf.brad.ac.uk/~jpit...n_netscape.gif __________________ That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch.

10-07-2003, 04:32	#3 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,625	I like that. The way the menu categories highlight before you select a specific option is nice. I'd look at using your stylesheet better though. This: <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0"> <div id="nav" style="position:absolute; width:100%; height:auto; bottom:0px; z-index:2; visibility: visible;"> if you put the style in the stylesheet, can be this: <body> <div id="nav"> At 800x600 it looks really good here, dunno what happens to smallbeer's. I really like it.

10-07-2003, 04:56	#6 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,263	nice dorian. couple of things 1. put a bloody title on the page 2. the grey at the very bottom is way to close to white - very little contrast 3. introduce some paragraph line height - the text seems rather packed 4. what about each link having a differnet hover background colour (thats just imo) nice though. haven't i seen that image somewhere else though

10-07-2003, 05:05	#8 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,625	The two bits I mentioned would look like this in your stylesheet, so you wouldn't need the same information in your html: body { background:#fff; margin:0; padding:0; } #nav { position:absolute; width:100%; height:auto; bottom:0; z-index:2; } If you want to do some reading/learning: http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/ http://www.mako4css.com/ http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/propindex/all.htm

10-07-2003, 05:16	#9 (permalink)
dan Iris Folder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: smokey Posts: 2,672	I like, and the appearence of terquoise plastic always makes my heart skip a beet LIke the overall feel, though the top feels a bit empty, which could be a good thing, depends on how you use the space in the other areas of the site. The base navigation is nice, like the way the whole bar highlights. I agree with Mik there, maybe each different bar could highlight a different colour/shade of the same colour. I don't see that the languages are obscure. No matter what language you translate to it'll increace your audience + show an extra talent (I'm guessing you speak these languages). I think it may need to be a bit more obvious though, or pointed out at an intro stage/on the first page.

10-07-2003, 05:24	#10 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	thanks stickman never spend enough time building = slow learning curve... japanmike: the grey gets highlighted afterall when you hover... no, you have not seen this picture anywhere else... different colour hover bgs? no! you do that to your website __________________ ...

10-07-2003, 05:35	#11 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,263	some people just will not learn

10-07-2003, 05:36	#12 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	the thing is, i'm not trying to promote myself as a translator but i'm 'being told' it matters... i'm still not sure. __________________ ...

10-07-2003, 05:38	#13 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	japanmik: do you mean will or will? __________________ ...

10-07-2003, 06:16	#14 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,263	will

10-07-2003, 06:17	#15 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	__________________ ...

10-07-2003, 17:19	#16 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	does anyone else have an opinion about the language options? would be much appreciated. __________________ ...

10-07-2003, 18:24	#17 (permalink)
dan Iris Folder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: smokey Posts: 2,672	The only thing I think is that if you are going to use them you need to draw more attention to them. Boxes, Highlights, the words change language... something to show what they are. With them not being usual languages it makes the whole section a bit cryptic, I had trouble finding them even when you told me they were there

11-07-2003, 05:04	#18 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	hmm __________________ ...

11-07-2003, 05:36	#19 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,263	you are based in europe so you need them -its the law ways of doing it. there are two ways 1. set character set to unicode and type in there language 2. use images set in ther language no flag, no english ( ie french, dutch ),

11-07-2003, 08:19	#20 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	I definitely wasn't going for flags. just the dilema is how to display the language options - the abbreviations look probably too cryptical. I can think of two different options: 1) A popup where people could select a language = dodgy, isn't it? 2) Incorporating the options into the navbar. Maybe with a dropdown - but then such a button would need to have a name - in what language? What if ie some polish person doesn't know what the word 'language' means? Including full names of the languages would clutter the menu. Popup might be the best options. __________________ ...

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