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jpf566 · 17-06-2008, 13:54

Well I have read a lot on the internet about tableless web design…. The more I read the more I feel…guilty about using tables to design my web sites. ☺ haha seriously I feel that it is time that I learn to design my sites without tables.. now.. Let me first start out by saying that I use dreamweaver…I know I know…all you code junkies are gonna call me a noob and everything.. But the fact of the matter is I am not a coder, I am a designer.
ANYWAY the reason for my post! I am currently working on a new web site, I have set it up using tables (rather sloppily I might add, Like I said, im a graphics guy not a code guy) Before I go any further here is what I have so far for my new site

sheffield.gomft.com/hfmcc/index.html

(SEE THE MONTHLY SPECIAL PAGE, Right bar) It looks kinda ok in Safari and is very messed up in Firefox. I am having some issues with the way the content is placing itself (on the right sidebar) when I elongate the main table. The box that contains the contact begins tiling itself, even though It looks fine in Dreamweaver, and all the furniture brands are not aligned to the top.

Maybe I need to go tableles… Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can attain this design? Either tableless or ….if I must, at least efficiently with tables? Thanks everyone.

John Good · 17-06-2008, 14:19

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natenation · 17-06-2008, 14:19

If you are looking to learn about building tableless sites I would look to google and type in css tutorial or something. I use both tables and css on my pages. I believe they both have their place.

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Comics - Web Design - Illustration

pgo · 17-06-2008, 16:09

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Originally Posted by natenation

If you are looking to learn about building tableless sites I would look to google and type in css tutorial or something. I use both tables and css on my pages. I believe they both have their place.

Nate Johnson
Comics - Web Design - Illustration

Yep. Tables are for tabular data. And nothing else.

milani · 17-06-2008, 17:04

It's actually not that hard to learn. I just took the plunge myself. Basically, if you were to the point that you were controlling table aspects like width, height, backgrounds, etc, with CSS, then moving to DIVS and CSS is hardly a step at all. In fact, I'd wager to say it's easier, at least in the case of fixed width layouts that are centered. I haven't really considered how you would go about making an expandable layout using %s, but I suspect it wouldn't be much harder either.

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17-06-2008, 13:54	#1 (permalink)
jpf566 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 16	Tables to tableless. I am willing to commit my life to tableless. Whats the next step Well I have read a lot on the internet about tableless web design…. The more I read the more I feel…guilty about using tables to design my web sites. ☺ haha seriously I feel that it is time that I learn to design my sites without tables.. now.. Let me first start out by saying that I use dreamweaver…I know I know…all you code junkies are gonna call me a noob and everything.. But the fact of the matter is I am not a coder, I am a designer. ANYWAY the reason for my post! I am currently working on a new web site, I have set it up using tables (rather sloppily I might add, Like I said, im a graphics guy not a code guy) Before I go any further here is what I have so far for my new site sheffield.gomft.com/hfmcc/index.html (SEE THE MONTHLY SPECIAL PAGE, Right bar) It looks kinda ok in Safari and is very messed up in Firefox. I am having some issues with the way the content is placing itself (on the right sidebar) when I elongate the main table. The box that contains the contact begins tiling itself, even though It looks fine in Dreamweaver, and all the furniture brands are not aligned to the top. Maybe I need to go tableles… Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can attain this design? Either tableless or ….if I must, at least efficiently with tables? Thanks everyone.

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natenation Comic Greatness.. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 18	If you are looking to learn about building tableless sites I would look to google and type in css tutorial or something. I use both tables and css on my pages. I believe they both have their place. Nate Johnson Comics - Web Design - Illustration

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milani Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 70	It's actually not that hard to learn. I just took the plunge myself. Basically, if you were to the point that you were controlling table aspects like width, height, backgrounds, etc, with CSS, then moving to DIVS and CSS is hardly a step at all. In fact, I'd wager to say it's easier, at least in the case of fixed width layouts that are centered. I haven't really considered how you would go about making an expandable layout using %s, but I suspect it wouldn't be much harder either.

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