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Blitzinger · 29-03-2008, 22:09

Ok so I have a domain in my name. I established a server via MS Office Live basic edition and decided those stupid free templates weren't for me. So I heard from Chris Pirillos blog that Drupal was the thing to use. Now I hear Drupal is for things like MySQL and PHP (however Drupal 7 will be specific PHP if I'm not mistaken).

I downloaded Drupal 6 and quite frankly, I don't know what to do. I have all the files downloaded and in an archive thing (like winzip but it's something else). What do I do? Should I re-install it to a specific root file? Should I extract it from the archive? I'm probably the biggest "noob" on this website when it comes to web design. Any help would be MUCH appreciated. I read the faqs and such on Drupal.org but still don't quite grasp the idea of what I'm supposed to do.

They need (if they don't already have) a Drupal for dummies....(Million dollar idea for those of you who have time to write it up and submit it to the company)

Thanks!

-Matt

pgo · 29-03-2008, 22:11

If you don't even know what PHP and MySQL are then Drupal is going to be way, way out of your league.

You probably downloaded a tarball of it, so you'll need an archive application that supports .tar.gz (7zip comes to mind). Then you need to follow the Drupal installation instructions (unzip to root, create a database, etc).

Since when does Office do any server stuff? Is it just a dumbed-down IIS? Apache is better anyway.

There are several good Drupal books. Pro Drupal Development comes to mind. However, this assumes at least a working knowledge of PHP/MySQL programming. It's not something you can just sit down and "do" if you don't know what you're doing. You have to learn HTML and CSS first. JavaScript/DOM would be handy also. Then you have to learn PHP and MySQL. Then you can learn Drupal.

2Dfruit · 29-03-2008, 23:44

what kind of site are you looking to build anyway?

Blitzinger · 30-03-2008, 00:06

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what kind of site are you looking to build anyway?

I'm trying to make a gaming website. Not for actual games but more for coverage (think Gamespot, ign type). The problem with those sites is they're owned by larger companies thus having more of a "bind" on the people who contribute to the site (feedback, etc). I want to make somewhat of a "open" website where people can contribute their opinions and ideas about games with no restraints. I want to set up a forum and a main "Latest News" type page.

rampagegfx · 30-03-2008, 00:39

So like... open source gaming community?

Blitzinger · 30-03-2008, 01:05

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So like... open source gaming community?

yes

rampagegfx · 30-03-2008, 01:10

How would you even moderate accurate vs inaccurate postings? Each entry start of with some flashy image "So.. Rumor has it: " $post_goes_here. Seems like an interesting concept although tough since there's many sites/blogs out there devoted to gaming: Kotaku, IGN and Gamespot, who royally doesn't deserve the attention that they get.

Blitzinger · 30-03-2008, 01:14

I'm kind of looking at Wikipedia as a model for it.

pgo · 30-03-2008, 09:17

If it's a wiki, then consider using a wiki for it. Drupal isn't a bad choice, but it's complicated and requires a lot of customization and knowledge. Web development (at the level of Gamestop and such) is a professional enterprise - not a hobby.

WikiPedia uses MediaWiki.

Blitzinger · 30-03-2008, 15:09

Just so I understand this 100%, there are not any servers with php,apache, SQL available for free, correct?

genitalia · 30-03-2008, 16:52

I think these people do free PHP and mySQL hosting.

Free, free, free, PHP and mySQL hosting. No charge come and get it! Nothing to pay guaranteed.

schneider707 · 31-03-2008, 18:21

i would definitely recommend staying away from drupal unless you know your php. Its powerful but only to the people that can handle the technical aspects. Wordpress or mediawiki would be a much better choice...id lean more towards wordpress but its whatever you prefer

asci · 31-03-2008, 20:07

I've just read this thread and this Drupal sounds interesting, there are 3 versions available, which is the best, most stable version to use??

flamingmenudo · 08-05-2008, 12:10

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Originally Posted by genitalia

I think these people do free PHP and mySQL hosting.

Free, free, free, PHP and mySQL hosting. No charge come and get it! Nothing to pay guaranteed.

Hahahahaha, that's HOT.

pgo · 08-05-2008, 13:13

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Originally Posted by asci

I've just read this thread and this Drupal sounds interesting, there are 3 versions available, which is the best, most stable version to use??

If you're new to it, just use the latest stable version.

29-03-2008, 22:09	#1 (permalink)
Blitzinger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5	Help!!....Please!! Ok so I have a domain in my name. I established a server via MS Office Live basic edition and decided those stupid free templates weren't for me. So I heard from Chris Pirillos blog that Drupal was the thing to use. Now I hear Drupal is for things like MySQL and PHP (however Drupal 7 will be specific PHP if I'm not mistaken). I downloaded Drupal 6 and quite frankly, I don't know what to do. I have all the files downloaded and in an archive thing (like winzip but it's something else). What do I do? Should I re-install it to a specific root file? Should I extract it from the archive? I'm probably the biggest "noob" on this website when it comes to web design. Any help would be MUCH appreciated. I read the faqs and such on Drupal.org but still don't quite grasp the idea of what I'm supposed to do. They need (if they don't already have) a Drupal for dummies....(Million dollar idea for those of you who have time to write it up and submit it to the company) Thanks! -Matt

29-03-2008, 22:11	#2 (permalink)
pgo Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NYC Posts: 11,869	If you don't even know what PHP and MySQL are then Drupal is going to be way, way out of your league. You probably downloaded a tarball of it, so you'll need an archive application that supports .tar.gz (7zip comes to mind). Then you need to follow the Drupal installation instructions (unzip to root, create a database, etc). Since when does Office do any server stuff? Is it just a dumbed-down IIS? Apache is better anyway. There are several good Drupal books. Pro Drupal Development comes to mind. However, this assumes at least a working knowledge of PHP/MySQL programming. It's not something you can just sit down and "do" if you don't know what you're doing. You have to learn HTML and CSS first. JavaScript/DOM would be handy also. Then you have to learn PHP and MySQL. Then you can learn Drupal. __________________ Find good advice in the beginners web design thread. patrick o'neill web developer \| blog \| spam humor

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30-03-2008, 09:17	#9 (permalink)
pgo Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NYC Posts: 11,869	If it's a wiki, then consider using a wiki for it. Drupal isn't a bad choice, but it's complicated and requires a lot of customization and knowledge. Web development (at the level of Gamestop and such) is a professional enterprise - not a hobby. WikiPedia uses MediaWiki. __________________ Find good advice in the beginners web design thread. patrick o'neill web developer \| blog \| spam humor

31-03-2008, 20:07	#13 (permalink)
asci Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Warwickshire, UK Posts: 1	Drupal, which version to use? I've just read this thread and this Drupal sounds interesting, there are 3 versions available, which is the best, most stable version to use??

30-03-2008, 00:39	#5 (permalink)
rampagegfx BOLLOX! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 508, Massachusetts Posts: 216	So like... open source gaming community?

30-03-2008, 01:10	#7 (permalink)
rampagegfx BOLLOX! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 508, Massachusetts Posts: 216	How would you even moderate accurate vs inaccurate postings? Each entry start of with some flashy image "So.. Rumor has it: " $post_goes_here. Seems like an interesting concept although tough since there's many sites/blogs out there devoted to gaming: Kotaku, IGN and Gamespot, who royally doesn't deserve the attention that they get.

30-03-2008, 01:14	#8 (permalink)
Blitzinger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5	I'm kind of looking at Wikipedia as a model for it.

30-03-2008, 15:09	#10 (permalink)
Blitzinger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5	Just so I understand this 100%, there are not any servers with php,apache, SQL available for free, correct?

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genitalia Vagina Vagina Vagina Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 181	I think these people do free PHP and mySQL hosting. Free, free, free, PHP and mySQL hosting. No charge come and get it! Nothing to pay guaranteed.

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schneider707 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5	i would definitely recommend staying away from drupal unless you know your php. Its powerful but only to the people that can handle the technical aspects. Wordpress or mediawiki would be a much better choice...id lean more towards wordpress but its whatever you prefer

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