[sukino]

Do not use HTML tables to lay out web pages.

Out of curious, since I am guilty of that many times, why not?

[Do Gooder]

Originally Posted by sukino

Out of curious, since I am guilty of that many times, why not?

read the first post on this thread kiddo

[Limbo]

Originally Posted by Dw Designs

Personaly I like Html.

And the most pointless quote of the week goes to...

[sukino]

lol. I mostly program with asp.net. Damn, it is so hard to keep up with the versions.

Interesting facts about html. I will move on to css completely then.

[pgo]

Welcome to 2003! Now, hurry you're at least 5 years behind the web industry.

[sukino]

Originally Posted by pgo

Welcome to 2003! Now, hurry you're at least 5 years behind the web industry.

You are talking about vs.net? :P I am using 2005. I do have the 2008 software, but have no time to try it. But I have heard great stuff about it. And then, there is this LINQ. :\ Damn, if only have the time. I am interested in php too, but once again. TIME. T_T

[Shiro]

He meant you have now moved up to 2003 as far as current design trends are concerned. Tables are the old way, CSS is the new way.

[sukino]

Originally Posted by haku

He meant you have now moved up to 2003 as far as current design trends are concerned. Tables are the old way, CSS is the new way.

LOL. I see. -_-' sorry, i missed the point badly as i am programming now, this tends to mess my brain up.

[ravenfire]

I was a huge table designer before learning css and I'll admit to being like a few here and being very reluctant to give it up. When I first started learning css laying out the design was so much harder than the table format I was used to. But I pushed past it and now that I have a good handle on css I would never want to go back to table layouts.

I have a question about dreamweaver. I see so many freelance ads that say it is required that the developer knows dreamweaver. I don't know it and have no desire to learn it, I write everything in a regular text editor. Do these people basically just want you to be able to write the code (and dreamweaver is what they've heard of) or do they really want specifically someone who uses dreamweaver?

As for text editors, I use rapid css and love it. The alphabetical list of tags that accompany css pages is very useful (just find what you need to edit and click). And it also has great syntax highlighting.

[pgo]

Originally Posted by ravenfire

Do these people basically just want you to be able to write the code (and dreamweaver is what they've heard of) or do they really want specifically someone who uses dreamweaver?

The only time I've ever worked on a site that "required" Dreamweaver was one driven by a CMS that used .dwt files (Dreamweaver Templates) for its templating engine.

Go ahead and download the trial, get a feel for it (it really is a nice editor in Code View, but not worth the $400 price tag in my opinion).

I think a lot of people just put that as a "requirement" because they heard it was the "industry standard" (it isn't...in my experience). If you're really interested in a job that lists that as a requirement, why not pop them an email and find out what's up with that. Or just try to get the job and then don't use Dreamweaver. They don't have to know.

[ravenfire]

Thank you pgo, that's what I figured. I'll definitely reply to any interesting ads I come across now, regardless of the dreamweaver requirement. And I'll download the trial and give it a shot. Then I can honestly say that I know it even if I won't be using it for their job lol.

[Shiro]

If you know how to use a code editor, then you can pretty much say you know how to use dreamweaver! Just play around with their ftp functions, and figure out how the 'check in' and 'check out' functions work. Those are the things you may need to know which are specific to dreamweaver.

[ravenfire]

Originally Posted by haku

If you know how to use a code editor, then you can pretty much say you know how to use dreamweaver! Just play around with their ftp functions, and figure out how the 'check in' and 'check out' functions work. Those are the things you may need to know which are specific to dreamweaver.

This is really good to know. I'm going to download the trial and check these things out. Thank you!

[gavalian]

if you use mac try Coda, it's very cool soft..

[deadgood]

Thanks for the post Master pgo. All done in a language Graphic Designers can understand !

[pgo]

English?

[adamcasey]

good stuff dude

[foundbydesign]

Hello All.
I am new to the board and already picking up tips! Thank you.

By trade I am a mortgage guy, but for fun I create websites. Gives me the opportunity to be creative and its been interesting learning HTML, CSS and some Java. Beginning to develop websites for others in the mortgage and real estate business.

I look forward to learning from you all.
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Ed Nailor
FoundByDesign.com

[pgo]

Originally Posted by foundbydesign

learning HTML, CSS and some Java.

First lesson, it's JavaScript - not Java. They're two completely different, unrelated languages!

[abbasinho]

I've just began learning Javascript - looks like something i should have learned years ago.