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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16
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I was a huge table designer before learning css and I'll admit to being like a few here and being very reluctant to give it up. When I first started learning css laying out the design was so much harder than the table format I was used to. But I pushed past it and now that I have a good handle on css I would never want to go back to table layouts. I have a question about dreamweaver. I see so many freelance ads that say it is required that the developer knows dreamweaver. I don't know it and have no desire to learn it, I write everything in a regular text editor. Do these people basically just want you to be able to write the code (and dreamweaver is what they've heard of) or do they really want specifically someone who uses dreamweaver? As for text editors, I use rapid css and love it. The alphabetical list of tags that accompany css pages is very useful (just find what you need to edit and click). And it also has great syntax highlighting. |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,336
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Go ahead and download the trial, get a feel for it (it really is a nice editor in Code View, but not worth the $400 price tag in my opinion). I think a lot of people just put that as a "requirement" because they heard it was the "industry standard" (it isn't...in my experience). If you're really interested in a job that lists that as a requirement, why not pop them an email and find out what's up with that. Or just try to get the job and then don't use Dreamweaver. They don't have to know. |
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16
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Thank you pgo, that's what I figured. I'll definitely reply to any interesting ads I come across now, regardless of the dreamweaver requirement. And I'll download the trial and give it a shot. Then I can honestly say that I know it even if I won't be using it for their job lol. |
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Whitey
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Yokohama, Japan
Posts: 7,319
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If you know how to use a code editor, then you can pretty much say you know how to use dreamweaver! Just play around with their ftp functions, and figure out how the 'check in' and 'check out' functions work. Those are the things you may need to know which are specific to dreamweaver. |
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16
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This is really good to know. I'm going to download the trial and check these things out. Thank you! |
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Web Developer
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: United States
Posts: 141
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This thread does have some very good tips. One thing to note is that if you want your web page's data to be used in more than one place--a phone's browsers, gaming console browser's, or even another page on your site--then you need to format your pages solely with DIV tags and CSS. You can get the same behavior as a table using CSS styling. |
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4
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Has anyone seen the opera web curriculum? opera dot com slash wsc (I would link you direct but my post count appears to be insufficient..) It's not complete, but looks like it'll be an awesome resource when its finished. All standards based too. |
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competitionmaster 2.0
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 1,508
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Here is a good intro to web design (not front-end dev, but design) Designer Eye for the Geek Guy/Gal and the slides: http://acko.net/files/Design%20Eye%2...rch%202007.pdf .
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 10
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help me
Hello im new here and i just needed a bit of help. First id like to say ive done a corse in web design through Ics which ill admit was a shit corse and ive had to work most of it out for myself, there is just to final things that i just cant seem to get my head around. Sorry before hand for long post. Firstly slices. Ive been designing the webpages in photoshop first (dont no if this is the prober way so correct me if im wrong). Then saveing the doc as a webpage and opening it for editing in dreamweaver. Anyway when ive made the page ive been told in my corese and on tutorials that anything that I will be editing such as link areas,headers,area of text, ive been told to make a slice. But when ive done this i end up with loads of auto slices that i cant get rid of. Because of this by the time ive finished makeing my page I end of with a image folder just filled with images that are just parts of the background or pointless white space. How do i stop this?? Secondly. How do you designers get your pictures onto the web. I upload all of mine onto photobucket and then replace all the code. I dont think this is the correct way. Thanks for reading any help would be exelent. |
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Design Destroyer
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Somewhere in Universe
Posts: 198
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More easy for them to keep it a website project in one place, any other DW user can do modifications. I do own a CS3 Web Creative Suite (standard) from Adobe. For my own designing I don't use DW but if someone sends a DW "project" than I can modify it and send back. just my 2 cents SIGNATURE ?
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,336
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Read through the thread. Learn XHTML and CSS, cut out only the images you need to create your web pages and replicate what you can in code. Upload via FTP. |
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Guru
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 481
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Although photoshop is a really good tool in the designing of a website, it is a really bad tool for anything else. (EDIT: when it comes to web design, I mean... lol) What you should be doing is designing the page using photoshop, save the slices that you actually need (small selections for any background that is not a solid color, logos, and other misc. pictures), and then use a editing program to finish the job. I have never tried using photoshop to create a website in this manner, but I would have to guess that it would be horribly inefficient and slow-loading. If it saves every image, then it is truly doing you a disservice, as visitors will not sit there and wait for your website to load. I use photoshop on the initial design, select the bits of design that I cannot replicate using either XHTML or CSS using slices, save them as either a .png or a .jpg (depending on transparency needs), and then finish using textmate (a Mac code editing program similar to notepad++, but better Dreamweaver is a crutch that produces (in my experience) rather bad code, it hardly ever is browser cross-compatible, rarely validates, and almost always is completely unreadable. Do yourself a favor, and start learning XHTML as soon as possible. Check out w3schools.com, it is a very good resource. Jason Corradino JasonCorradino.com |
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