[Limbo]

thanks Velle

The Commercial license offer a lot more.

MPdennis - you can't use the core version for commercial sites - look at the T&C or join the EE forum for more info.

Adding flash is easy - just add the html to your nav include (for instance) ...

[mpdennis]

Hi Limbo,

I have been researching the use of EE more thoroughly and am being rapidly converted to this platform. I wonder if you could help me out with a query I have regarding licensing as I am unable to figure this out.

If I, a freelance designer, were to purchase an enterprise license, would I need a new license per website or is the license for multiple sites managed by myself?

Any help is appreciated.

Kindest Regards

Michael

[iblastoff]

yes EE is powerful. it's currently the cat's pajamas. but when you have well documented performance issues (simple {embeds} causing whole servers to halt? come on) on top of a ridiculous pricing format, i really don't know why people buy into it when there are so many free options available.

basically, if you're looking to offer it to clients, for a commercial license thats a flat $250 right there. if you need the integrated forum on top of that, theres another $100. For upgrades, every year after the first "free" year is another $40 yearly subscription fee unless you don't plan on keeping EE up to date for some reason. Now if you wanted to manage multiple sites, on top of all the aforementioned fees already, you have to pay another $200 for the multiple site manager, and that only gives you 3 'free' sites (which all have to reside on the same server) until you have to pay ANOTHER $50 per site you want to manage.

now obviously thats pocket change if you're pulling in relatively large clients, but still...

[stealthcow]

after using expression engine on a couple of sites we've decided to scrap it - the lack of a proper preview stage + decent approval system makes it unsuitable for medium/large sized corporate websites

[stealthcow]

this cms is the dogs bollocks: MySource Matrix Open Source CMS - Home

but unfortunately it doesnt run on PHP 5 so we cant use that one either!

[dorilla studios]

i found that EE is very easy to use for me as a coder... contrasting it with joomla, everything is much easier to customize, whereas i have to go through a lot of coding just to remove stuff from joomla's original coding

i love the flexibility that EE offers

[eric09]

Hi guys - I would also be interested in understanding the licensing..
Also I'm intersted to know about embedding it in a flash website design.

Thx
Eric Macquarrie
Global Solutions IT

[iblastoff]

Originally Posted by dorilla studios

i found that EE is very easy to use for me as a coder... contrasting it with joomla, everything is much easier to customize, whereas i have to go through a lot of coding just to remove stuff from joomla's original coding

i love the flexibility that EE offers

EE is basically a proprietary version of Textpattern with more features out of the box. I find both are rather similar to work with and if EE didn't have all the licensing hoops to jump through, I'd definitely use it more often. too bad EE core is worthless unless you're just using it for a personal blog or something of similar nature.

[mpdennis]

Fug EE

I am very happy with Textpattern at the moment.

I can't see how the EE fees are justified when comparing to other open source projects like Textpattern and ModX for instance

I also came across this little number which I am testing out at the mo

[canglan]

Hmm, I am trying to decide between Wordpress and EE for building my personal website. I am very confident on Wordpress platform because I've been using it for years, and it has a great backend.

I've tried EE a couple of times (even when they were called pMachine), it's nice to have more features out-of-box. However, the main problem is that the backend is not very user-friendly. I mean, sure the structure is fine but I have to click so many times in order to get to what I wanted to be. It makes the backend a lot more complicated to use than it should be.

Is there any more convincing reasons to go with EE rather than Wordpress?

Thanks!

[alexjames01]

Originally Posted by canglan

Hmm, I am trying to decide between Wordpress and EE for building my personal website. I am very confident on Wordpress platform because I've been using it for years, and it has a great backend.

I've tried EE a couple of times (even when they were called pMachine), it's nice to have more features out-of-box. However, the main problem is that the backend is not very user-friendly. I mean, sure the structure is fine but I have to click so many times in order to get to what I wanted to be. It makes the backend a lot more complicated to use than it should be.

Is there any more convincing reasons to go with EE rather than Wordpress?

Thanks!

I haven't read all the posts in this thread but in my opinion expression engine has a lot of great features but its template system pales in comparison to wordpress.

There is nothing expression engine can do that wordpress can't with a little bit of knowledge. Plus its free, and has great community support.

[Limbo]

True that there are great features in both, but EE's basic components free the designer from all confines of other publishing tools IMO.

+ you get thing like simple e-commerce and gallery modules as standard.

[shaftb]

Originally Posted by mpdennis

Fug EE

I am very happy with Textpattern at the moment.

I can't see how the EE fees are justified when comparing to other open source projects like Textpattern and ModX for instance

I also came across this little number which I am testing out at the mo

Your link didn't work...

[Limbo]

Day 1: What are we doing over the next 24 days? | Jambor-ee

g'werk beers.

[John Good]

this is the best EE ressource i've found, so far...

[Last Dynasty]

Wow.. This EE platform look ( so far ) so damn good! Must get to know it better.

[Limbo]

Dissecting the Default Templates

Should have worked through this from the off.

[calamari]

For what it's worth coming from a forum n00b, I love EE.

I'm in the process of redesigning a trade publication's website using it, and the EE platform is incredibly robust and powerful. I've got a pretty strong PHP background, so being able to do some of the advanced programming stuff so easily is a great break. This engine can do all kinds of things.

Speaking of EE, if you any of you use PHP on a regular basis and are looking for a powerful, easy to use framework, Ellis Labs also makes a free PHP framework called Code Igniter. I've used it for some projects as well, and it's pretty incredible.

codeigniter.com

[LogicWeb]

I use EE myself for my company site and editing other forums. Its a great software but like any, has its share of bugs. Its a 110% improvement over the ancient frontpage.

[Limbo]

An Introduction to ExpressionEngine [on Geek & Mild]

from the guy who designed: The City Church