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Mattoman · 31-05-2007, 04:49

Im pretty new to webdesign but ive made a few designs and have done some basic coding with HTML and tried some CSS although i can never seem to work CSS well because of both browsers coming into conflict. Anyways heres 2 of my latests works i just need some C,C on colours and stuff because im coloured blind with red and green
thanks

links

[h]ttp://ic3.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/150/9/4/Website05_by_Mattoman.png
[h]ttp://fc01.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/150/0/7/Website04_by_Mattoman.png

thankyou

izisilver · 31-05-2007, 06:28

Stripes for backgrounds sure are nice, but u don't have to use then everywhere! First of all, put content in the layout, only then u can see if your design is working. Second, don't use all the cool effect from other sites. Be minimal in the beginning, focus on content which u are representing. If you do layouts just for fun, chose web page u think that needs redesigning and use their content. Maybe u think that designing means making cool layouts, but the main goal is to represent content in the best way.

Those two examples u publish are crappy. U haven't define style, colors seem to be random - I think that u was just coping other sites, but u weren't successful.

Hope u don't resent, we were all rookies and we all went through phase of learning.

Mattoman · 31-05-2007, 08:14

thanks for the words, however i came up with both of the designs myself the only thing i used from another website was the stippy lines effect on the background, and which effects are you referrering to? The graidents on text ect? or the rollover navigation. Thanks again

izisilver · 31-05-2007, 10:32

I'm not saying that you took something directly from other sites. U maybe like something (obvious stripes ...) and that u included it in your sites. I'm not saying that u can't check other sites and maybe gather some ideas, but use those effects only when needed.

Main problem (other than colors, shapes, ugly effects ...) is ur grid. U should put elements in some order. Look at your grid right now:
etelje.com/datoteke/dt_help_lines.jpg

See how many vertical lines I put there?

Go around the web, look at good designs - and ASK YOURSELF why is that.

Mattoman · 31-05-2007, 18:37

Im unfamiliar as to what 'Grinds' are. What order exactly are you talking about? thanks again for taking the time. maybe you can post a Good design that i should look at.

brendan hart · 31-05-2007, 18:56

Um dont try and do massively advanced stuff when you not familiar with tools and when you not familiar with design, as my teacher always taught me , learn by imitation, he also taught me to use tables, so from then i didnt listen to my teacher.

www.procodes.net/bluecodes

this is my latest design it is simple(1 image only the rest is just html(which is very messy in the css/ I have to fix it then it will be free for any one to use)

oh dang i seem to have gotten an extra div tag, that wasnt happening at home, hmm 1 tic, i thought i did add an extra one in earlyer. hmm

brendan hart · 31-05-2007, 19:06

Ok if some one can fix that, I can not see any problems

Snowshiro · 31-05-2007, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattoman

Im unfamiliar as to what 'Grinds' are.

You and me both. I think he meant grid.

He's telling you that the elements on your page don't line up well, so you need to work on a simpler grid.

izisilver · 01-06-2007, 06:15

I'm sorry for the wrong word, but Firefox's spell checker was ot with it

.

On site point there is a very good article about principles of web design:
sitepoint.com/article/principles-beautiful-web-design/

On third page there is a section about grids too:
sitepoint.com/article/principles-beautiful-web-design/3

I think thats enough for now

Mattoman · 01-06-2007, 09:23

thanks again people. ill keep this in mind at my next attempt at somthing

31-05-2007, 04:49	#1 (permalink)
Mattoman Student Designer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 30	Just some C&C needed Im pretty new to webdesign but ive made a few designs and have done some basic coding with HTML and tried some CSS although i can never seem to work CSS well because of both browsers coming into conflict. Anyways heres 2 of my latests works i just need some C,C on colours and stuff because im coloured blind with red and green thanks links [h]ttp://ic3.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/150/9/4/Website05_by_Mattoman.png [h]ttp://fc01.deviantart.com/fs16/f/2007/150/0/7/Website04_by_Mattoman.png thankyou

31-05-2007, 10:32	#4 (permalink)
izisilver Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Novo mesto, Slovenia Posts: 7	I'm not saying that you took something directly from other sites. U maybe like something (obvious stripes ...) and that u included it in your sites. I'm not saying that u can't check other sites and maybe gather some ideas, but use those effects only when needed. Main problem (other than colors, shapes, ugly effects ...) is ur grid. U should put elements in some order. Look at your grid right now: etelje.com/datoteke/dt_help_lines.jpg See how many vertical lines I put there? Go around the web, look at good designs - and ASK YOURSELF why is that. Last edited by izisilver : 01-06-2007 at 06:04.

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31-05-2007, 06:28	#2 (permalink)
izisilver Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Novo mesto, Slovenia Posts: 7	Stripes for backgrounds sure are nice, but u don't have to use then everywhere! First of all, put content in the layout, only then u can see if your design is working. Second, don't use all the cool effect from other sites. Be minimal in the beginning, focus on content which u are representing. If you do layouts just for fun, chose web page u think that needs redesigning and use their content. Maybe u think that designing means making cool layouts, but the main goal is to represent content in the best way. Those two examples u publish are crappy. U haven't define style, colors seem to be random - I think that u was just coping other sites, but u weren't successful. Hope u don't resent, we were all rookies and we all went through phase of learning.

31-05-2007, 08:14	#3 (permalink)
Mattoman Student Designer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 30	thanks for the words, however i came up with both of the designs myself the only thing i used from another website was the stippy lines effect on the background, and which effects are you referrering to? The graidents on text ect? or the rollover navigation. Thanks again

31-05-2007, 18:37	#5 (permalink)
Mattoman Student Designer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 30	Im unfamiliar as to what 'Grinds' are. What order exactly are you talking about? thanks again for taking the time. maybe you can post a Good design that i should look at.

31-05-2007, 18:56	#6 (permalink)
brendan hart Invincisible Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 221	Um dont try and do massively advanced stuff when you not familiar with tools and when you not familiar with design, as my teacher always taught me , learn by imitation, he also taught me to use tables, so from then i didnt listen to my teacher. www.procodes.net/bluecodes this is my latest design it is simple(1 image only the rest is just html(which is very messy in the css/ I have to fix it then it will be free for any one to use) oh dang i seem to have gotten an extra div tag, that wasnt happening at home, hmm 1 tic, i thought i did add an extra one in earlyer. hmm

31-05-2007, 19:06	#7 (permalink)
brendan hart Invincisible Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 221	Ok if some one can fix that, I can not see any problems

01-06-2007, 06:15	#9 (permalink)
izisilver Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Novo mesto, Slovenia Posts: 7	I'm sorry for the wrong word, but Firefox's spell checker was ot with it . On site point there is a very good article about principles of web design: sitepoint.com/article/principles-beautiful-web-design/ On third page there is a section about grids too: sitepoint.com/article/principles-beautiful-web-design/3 I think thats enough for now

01-06-2007, 09:23	#10 (permalink)
Mattoman Student Designer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 30	thanks again people. ill keep this in mind at my next attempt at somthing

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