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Old 06-04-2003, 06:15   #21 (permalink)
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[quote:e9e4f03abc="greenfruit"]i like the site, but isnt the splash page a bit unnecessary?[/quote:e9e4f03abc]

I think greenfruit means anticubicle doesn't need a splashpage.
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Old 06-04-2003, 06:47   #22 (permalink)
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Old 06-04-2003, 15:27   #23 (permalink)
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hahaa, well i feel splash pages are a good way to get peoples attention.

sort of like the cover of a magazine.

know what i mean?
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Old 07-04-2003, 07:48   #24 (permalink)
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I quite like anticubicle's splash - and you half expect to see a splashpage for a magazine-type site anyway, to create the 'cover' effect.

As long as they are quick-loading, they're okay. I wouldn't want to see more of them on the web and on other types of site, though.
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Old 07-04-2003, 07:51   #25 (permalink)
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[quote:539ffb65a2="jnicklo"]hahaa, well i feel splash pages are a good way to get peoples attention.[/quote:539ffb65a2]
Just a thought - if they're at your site, seeing your splashpage, then haven't you already got their attention?
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Old 07-04-2003, 08:40   #26 (permalink)
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i think the spash page is just an extra click, maybe minor but REALLY annoying none-the-less.

After all, its not testing for flash or giving me options. I noticed even Surfstation removed theirs.
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Old 07-04-2003, 13:08   #27 (permalink)
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but see, we're not trying to be like surfstation or any of the other e-zines

Maybe the splash page will be removed one day but for now we sort of need it.

The site is created in a directory named "site". It was there for our testing as we developed it. The database was made FOR that specific directory. It would have been ALOT more work for us to switch it over to the root directory. The database would have to be totally redone.

The next version of AC will be ALOT better, I promise you all that. For now just sit tight as we work on Issue #2 due out May 1st.
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Old 07-04-2003, 13:54   #28 (permalink)
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[quote:aaca2be689="jnicklo"]...The site is created in a directory named "site". It was there for our testing as we developed it. The database was made FOR that specific directory. It would have been ALOT more work for us to switch it over to the root directory. The database would have to be totally redone...[/quote:aaca2be689]
Really? I thought dreamweaver was capable of dealing with all that?
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Old 08-04-2003, 07:08   #29 (permalink)
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[quote:01a7834a71="greenfruit"]the splash page is just an extra click[/quote:01a7834a71]

I think if you're going to use a splash page, it should be set to refresh to the main page after a couple of seconds.
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Old 08-04-2003, 08:29   #30 (permalink)
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[quote:a48f8c14be="Stickman"]I think if you're going to use a splash page, it should be set to refresh to the main page after a couple of seconds.[/quote:a48f8c14be]

yep thatd be better, or even immediately then no-one would know
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Old 08-04-2003, 09:44   #31 (permalink)
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I wonder if there is a way of adding some [i:291c002d1a]value[/i:291c002d1a] to a splash page? so that the purpose of it would be justified...? a special feature that would make people not skip it.
Dont know, maybe something like a poll... or something that will make people go back the next day?
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Old 08-04-2003, 10:26   #32 (permalink)
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There's not really any point. Anything of any value would go in your site, on the main page.

There is basically no reason for a splash page other than aesthetics (and even thats debatable - see greenfruit's posts).
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Old 08-04-2003, 11:03   #33 (permalink)
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hang-over from the printed era!?!?
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Old 08-04-2003, 11:10   #34 (permalink)
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Probably - if you were to print your website as a document, then a splash could be useful. But no-one's going to do that.
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Old 08-04-2003, 12:44   #35 (permalink)
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lets just put it this way.

splash pages are a popular thing right now, they look cool and they catch the users attention right away (if done correctly) as do magazine or book covers.

in design you should know that the first thing the consumer sees should be the most attractive, thus the reason for covers or "splash pages".

Just my opinion, either way everyone says the love the splash itself.
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Old 08-04-2003, 12:59   #36 (permalink)
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probably seems like were ganging up on you, but i feel that splash pages should and will eventually go the way of flash intros - sidelined, generally shunned and removed from the best sites.

Ive yet to see a site where the splash page adds anything and all it really does is add an extra click to enter the site proper - and many of those extra clicks will be closing the window, i know i do that.

Of course the alternative is to make it automatically jump to the site after 3-5 seconds, but again its just unnecessary extra flaff for the user to deal with.

I guess you could put 'NEW' items or contents like a magazine, but that should be on the main site in a good design anyway and the web ISNT a magazine.

sorry to sound so negative jnicklo, but that splash really spoils what for me is otherwise a good site - its just a personal niggle.
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Old 08-04-2003, 14:07   #37 (permalink)
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its all good bro, i like hearing people's opinions on the site.

it helps me gather ideas on what to do and what NOT to do for the next version.

Keep in mind, when I say version I mean a totally new layout....when I say issue it means new content for the current layout.

So....

Next Issue = May 1st 2003
Next Version = Fall 2003
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Old 08-04-2003, 14:48   #38 (permalink)
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[quote:2cfabc3389="jnicklo"]
in design you should know that the first thing the consumer sees should be the most attractive, thus the reason for covers or "splash pages".
[/quote:2cfabc3389]

But this is web design, and aesthetics are not just what it's all about. Surely the first thing the consumer sees is the wealth of content the site has to offer and thus a reason for them to explore further/keep coming back?
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Old 08-04-2003, 21:51   #39 (permalink)
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[quote:c5e1b2c2e4="Luke Redpath"]
But this is web design, and aesthetics are not just what it's all about... [/quote:c5e1b2c2e4]

sadly, in webdesign - aesthetics is the first thing to go!

...and then there are times where you can't convince the client that a splash page is not needed They are very popular here in Greece...
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Old 08-04-2003, 22:22   #40 (permalink)
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like i said....sticking with the splash until i feel it isnt needed anymore.

I want people to start recognizing our logo
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