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cam · 12-01-2007, 07:40

use PNG's for all good browsers, throw GIF's to the oldies. as for tips - only time they look decent is by applying a matte, but that'll only work if you know in advance what colour(s) they'll be overlaying..

emil · 12-01-2007, 07:50

what sort of gifs? type/titles? then apply a matte in the background colour of choice.
if it's an icon/small graphic you can retouch the margins at 1600 magnification until they look ok.
Not many options, except what cam has already suggested.

Mr Fred · 12-01-2007, 08:03

aye i wanted to do it so that i could change the background willynilly on a whim and it would still look tops.

emil · 12-01-2007, 08:11

if you change the bg, you'll change the css as well, so if the images are put with css you can create separate folders to pick the images from.
I prefer using gifs that way, since they are usually smaller in file size than pngs.

stickmus · 12-01-2007, 09:02

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Originally Posted by Mr Fred

aye i wanted to do it so that i could change the background willynilly on a whim and it would still look tops.

Can only do that with hard edges with GIFs

As said above, PNG is the way to go.

tubbyman20 · 21-01-2007, 12:38

As said before, use .pngs, high quality and transparency

BasicMind · 22-01-2007, 07:03

the trouble is that IE6 has very poor transparncy support for both .gif and .png

stickmus · 22-01-2007, 08:22

no it doesn't you just have to know how to get around it. gif has no problems either.

BasicMind · 22-01-2007, 08:35

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Originally Posted by stickmus

no it doesn't you just have to know how to get around it.

so it does then, if you have to get around it.

asariyski · 22-01-2007, 08:57

And why not get around it? It is hard? You are lazy? What? What is the fucking problem?

Know that even if a meteor was about to crash our tiny planet to pieces, Microsoft would not *change* IE6 so it supports everything you want by default.
In case you haven`t noticed - they have IE7 now. It supports PNG.
If you want to have your PNGs supported in IE6 you just have to use behaviors.

It is dumb to keep talking about issues with legacy browsers. You just go around the issues and that`s it.

BasicMind · 22-01-2007, 09:08

*sigh* question was tips for transparancies.

I pointed out that IE6 has poor support for them. which alot of people still using IE6 as vista in all its glory has not graced the entire world yet. and it may well be some time before IE7 is the standard IE.

As nobody pointed out this pitfall, I did. Silly me.

stickmus · 22-01-2007, 09:42

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Originally Posted by BasicMind

so it does then, if you have to get around it.

It doesn't have poor support, it just has a non standard implementation.

BatteryLow · 22-01-2007, 11:48

Here's a tip. Always put a stroke color around your image that somewhat matches the background color of what it's going on top of. this will get rid of all jagged edges.

kaisellgren · 03-02-2007, 09:41

Too bad that IE6 cannot display transparent PNG's

Scott · 03-02-2007, 09:57

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Originally Posted by kaisellgren

Too bad that IE6 cannot display transparent PNG's

it can you just have to use a ie hack

dorian · 03-02-2007, 10:46

"universal" transparent gifs must have a hard edge. no antialias! (this would require 256 alpha tranparency - and thats png's).

...or you could make your icons tiny svg's - but i guess it's too fiddly + there will be issues with compatibility. (wild guess based on some experience...) :P

RaelRode · 04-02-2007, 06:05

IE6 cant handle transparent .pngs but it can do .gifs so gifs all the way!!! lol

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emil dt immigrant Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bucharest - Romania Posts: 6,976	what sort of gifs? type/titles? then apply a matte in the background colour of choice. if it's an icon/small graphic you can retouch the margins at 1600 magnification until they look ok. Not many options, except what cam has already suggested. __________________ Tourism Q X R

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emil dt immigrant Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bucharest - Romania Posts: 6,976	if you change the bg, you'll change the css as well, so if the images are put with css you can create separate folders to pick the images from. I prefer using gifs that way, since they are usually smaller in file size than pngs. __________________ Tourism Q X R

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stickmus hmmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Yorkuk Posts: 2,130	no it doesn't you just have to know how to get around it. gif has no problems either. __________________ George Smith - a vain attempt to get higher on google for my name

12-01-2007, 08:03	#4 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,427	aye i wanted to do it so that i could change the background willynilly on a whim and it would still look tops.

21-01-2007, 12:38	#7 (permalink)
tubbyman20 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19	As said before, use .pngs, high quality and transparency

22-01-2007, 07:03	#8 (permalink)
BasicMind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 197	the trouble is that IE6 has very poor transparncy support for both .gif and .png

22-01-2007, 08:57	#11 (permalink)
asariyski z-z-z Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 100	And why not get around it? It is hard? You are lazy? What? What is the fucking problem? Know that even if a meteor was about to crash our tiny planet to pieces, Microsoft would not change IE6 so it supports everything you want by default. In case you haven`t noticed - they have IE7 now. It supports PNG. If you want to have your PNGs supported in IE6 you just have to use behaviors. It is dumb to keep talking about issues with legacy browsers. You just go around the issues and that`s it.

22-01-2007, 09:08	#12 (permalink)
BasicMind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 197	sigh question was tips for transparancies. I pointed out that IE6 has poor support for them. which alot of people still using IE6 as vista in all its glory has not graced the entire world yet. and it may well be some time before IE7 is the standard IE. As nobody pointed out this pitfall, I did. Silly me.

22-01-2007, 11:48	#14 (permalink)
BatteryLow Rice Cooker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 58	Here's a tip. Always put a stroke color around your image that somewhat matches the background color of what it's going on top of. this will get rid of all jagged edges.

03-02-2007, 09:41	#15 (permalink)
kaisellgren Premium PSD Designer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 23	Too bad that IE6 cannot display transparent PNG's

03-02-2007, 10:46	#17 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,230	"universal" transparent gifs must have a hard edge. no antialias! (this would require 256 alpha tranparency - and thats png's). ...or you could make your icons tiny svg's - but i guess it's too fiddly + there will be issues with compatibility. (wild guess based on some experience...) :P __________________ ...

04-02-2007, 06:05	#18 (permalink)
RaelRode Designers are strange :) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Shrewsbury, UK Posts: 1,733	IE6 cant handle transparent .pngs but it can do .gifs so gifs all the way!!! lol

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