[mathias]

I was told that everyone uses some sort of code generator these days, Dreamweaver, Quark, and uhh...what's that other one? Anyway, is that true? Have they come that far now, that they actually create decent code?

How much code do you generate?

[5P4C3]

Thats fucked. Code generators are for pussy´s!

[d*d]

Originally Posted by mathias

I was told that everyone uses some sort of code generator these days, Dreamweaver, Quark, and uhh...what's that other one? Anyway, is that true? Have they come that far now, that they actually create decent code?

How much code do you generate?

the consensus I get from people here is that code generators aren't a good substitute for writing the code yourself, however if you're sensible you will use formatting software (like the code view in Dreamweaver) which highlights the syntax and produces code hints and some will test the code for errors - these are time saving and make hand coding a lot easier

[rbastien]

I generate code very often. I often use dreamweaver as a time-saving tool, although there are many faults in the program, and I'm often hard coding instead of using the WYSIWYG design portion of the program.

For example, we all know that DIV layers can be a bitch to align and size, so creating it through dreamweaver allows a visual perspective, which will give you a more accurate result. With exception to that, I always hand code because having a texual perspective of the design allows you to see what it is of comprised of and how, so you can alter it to deliver the information the fastest, and be optimized for a wider range of people (different browsers, resolutions, languages, etc...)

[Justinraff]

Depending on what I'm coding, I try to use the tool which gives me the fastest and most accurate code. For web pages this usually means hand coding with a decent editor which has at least syntax highlighting, automatic formatting and preferably auto-complete or some kind of inteli-sense feature.

[freelancr]

always hand code, using "visual studio express web developer" - havent even looked at the "design view" side of that program, dreamweaver put me off WYSIWYG forever.

[gray]

Originally Posted by d*d

the consensus I get from people here is that code generators aren't a good substitute for writing the code yourself, however if you're sensible you will use formatting software (like the code view in Dreamweaver) which highlights the syntax and produces code hints and some will test the code for errors - these are time saving and make hand coding a lot easier

fact.

[Designer101]

i write my stuff from nothin

[Designer101]

Originally Posted by d*d

the consensus I get from people here is that code generators aren't a good substitute for writing the code yourself, however if you're sensible you will use formatting software (like the code view in Dreamweaver) which highlights the syntax and produces code hints and some will test the code for errors - these are time saving and make hand coding a lot easier

ya thats the shit

[jamiecarruthers]

I use textmate for writing all my code. I generate the code myself but often use the built-in and custom macros for common code insertion (such as doctypes, wrapping code in html tags etc)

[emil]

I write everything from scratch. In DW. For the reasons highlighted by deedee.

[Transmogrify]

Originally Posted by mathias

I was told that everyone uses some sort of code generator these days, Dreamweaver, Quark, and uhh...what's that other one? Anyway, is that true? Have they come that far now, that they actually create decent code?

How much code do you generate?

I'd wager the opposite is true these days. I think in the late 90s when the likes of dreamweaver started springing up, that very few people hand-coded their HTML. Since standards compliancy and semantic html have been proven to be an "important thing", and dreamweaver etc. fail to produce either standards compliant code or semantic html, I'd say the tide has turned against code generators.

[Limbo]

Originally Posted by emilpaun

...deedee.

allways thought it was Dad?

[mgpwr]

i like to write my own stuff, and if i dont know how to, i will seek help, whats the point in cheating, cos thats all it is, i preferre to be known as genuine and unique (at least i hope people will see me like that)

[mgpwr]

mistake on my last post, as if i cant even spell (Prefer)

[EngAdven]

I would not call Dreamweaver a code generator.
There's a newer breed of RAD (rapid application development) tools that give hand code quality but automate the boring bits. They are often built around CSS standards and keep the content 100% separate from the design. www.straight2web.net and www.xlinesoft.com are examples.

[moos3]

I write everything by hand in some type of editor such as VIM/NANO/VI and if I'm on one of my mac's then its done in Dreamweaver just for the constant open ftp client that way I don't have to constantly upload and download.

[pgo]

I'm using DW for the FTP, but one of the hosts I deal with doesn't seem to like DW.

And I don't like all the stupid folders ( "_notes"? wtf do I need that for) and shit it creates, so I'm going to be using it for coding only.

Most. Expensive. Text editor. EVER.

[Dusteh]

haha so true, but as I'm not the one paying for it I'm happy to keep using it. I like the way you can jump between the code and the css files quickly and easily in DW, and little things like it finishes your tags for you - annoying to start with but once you get used to it, its handy.

They really need to sort out the design view however.

Who the hell generates code out of Quark???

[poppinphresh]

Originally Posted by Dusteh

Who the hell generates code out of Quark???

I didn't even know you could do that...