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pgo · 24-04-2007, 23:41

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Originally Posted by -Red-

I am just finishing a four year degree in Interactive Multimedia Design.

And you started when this thread was started!

joey · 24-04-2007, 23:59

Don't you wish real life was that fast? You talk about going to college. And then, on the next page, you say you are almost finished.

Congrats.

funkyprem · 25-04-2007, 05:08

it probably randomly sprung up on is new posts list as it did on mine.

luckily i checked the dates before replying!!

gray · 25-04-2007, 05:47

ive also got a job and retired since this thread was started

lmclaney · 25-04-2007, 05:47

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it probably randomly sprung up on is new posts list as it did on mine.

Yep that keeps on happening a lot to me lately too - admin?

datahound · 25-04-2007, 05:50

If someone votes on a poll it appears in the new posts.

Dusteh · 25-04-2007, 06:18

time to revive the OS6 vs Win95 poll then.

Scott · 25-04-2007, 08:53

Baz · 25-04-2007, 14:24

what about mac vs pc?

twentysixtwelve · 26-04-2007, 08:50

I have a degree in Product Design.. It took a good few years after graduating to actually get a design job, purely because of my lack of industry experience.

So on the one hand I`d say a degree isnt as strong as experience. Having said that, alot of companies specify a degree educated person because it means they have the drive and ambition to complete something. If you`ve managed to work for something for 3 or 4 years, it proves you`re a certain type of person.

A good solution is a gap year in industry. 2 yrs of uni, a year off working for a company (who might even sponsor you) then final year. U`ll probably be able to get a job back with the company when u graduate, plus you`ll have a bit more industry experience than the other fledglings.

stankoff · 27-04-2007, 09:32

IMHO Nah, natural talent and flair is good enough

Mik · 27-04-2007, 10:12

not if you want to be a dentist.

b v · 27-04-2007, 11:26

or a neurosurgeon

another™ · 28-04-2007, 17:11

hi, i'm new, second year degree student.

i would have said talent when i was on HND, where it was just going through the motions till the end and a piece of paper, but degree has opened my eyes to how naiive untrained desingers can be, simple things like type rules and semiotics that would have escaped me (and did) before we had training.

it's the reason we have all these 'professional' designers, who you just know have a copy of Photoshop 5.5 and little more. no consideration for type, or restraint, the things that come with training.

but ideally, you need talent and training.

Maerk · 28-04-2007, 17:27

No degree here and managed fine, that said, if I'd gone straight from learning a bit of photoshop to declaring myself a designer (like far too many do), then yes - rather pathetic. I've learned a vast amount of my skills on the job from other designers, in an agency environment. So I suppose in a way I've been trained, but it's been down to my own ability to absorb knowledge and it hasn't been formal.

Can go either way I suppose.
(was doing so well resisting replying to the dredged up thread, but couldn't not reply to last post hehe)

LoganX · 01-05-2007, 12:48

I left uni after 1 year of my degree to continue working as a junior at a web design company I had spent the summer with, they taught me more than I was learning in uni. After nearly a year with them I got a job as a web designer for the BBC where I spent over 6 years building my portfolio which has now helped my gain an even better job. But the BBC did require a degree for senior designer/team leader roles and even though they knew I had the experience their policy stated that the job would only go to an applicant with a degree.

So I think your own natural talent will take you most of the way but a degree might help you get that little bit further.

pgo · 01-05-2007, 13:50

What ever happened to people going to college/university for education instead of to get a job?

Who cares what your degree is in. Just get an education.

b v · 01-05-2007, 14:21

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Originally Posted by pgo

What ever happened to people going to college/university for education instead of to get a job?

Who cares what your degree is in. Just get an education.

exactly my philosophy. i want to learn as much as i can about as many things as i can. the degree is just an added bonus.

pgo · 01-05-2007, 16:06

Art. History. Science. Culture. Philosophy. Math.

You don't learn these things working at an agency. And if you don't learn them in art school, as was my experience, teach yourself.

Maerk · 01-05-2007, 19:38

Aye education is tres important, wouldn't consider myself ill-educated just happen to be degreeless myself. Always consider learning to be an important thing, always more stuff to know

Though can see the downside to a degree for the sake of having one for the experience, here at least its a huge bloody financial hole, i still owe from my brief stint in a degree that didn't take

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joey Joey™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,088	Don't you wish real life was that fast? You talk about going to college. And then, on the next page, you say you are almost finished. Congrats.

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gray i still want paying Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: newcastle, uk Posts: 4,836	ive also got a job and retired since this thread was started

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Baz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 25	what about mac vs pc?

26-04-2007, 08:50	#70 (permalink)
twentysixtwelve css is cool m'kay Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Currently Vancouver, Canada Posts: 395	I have a degree in Product Design.. It took a good few years after graduating to actually get a design job, purely because of my lack of industry experience. So on the one hand I`d say a degree isnt as strong as experience. Having said that, alot of companies specify a degree educated person because it means they have the drive and ambition to complete something. If you`ve managed to work for something for 3 or 4 years, it proves you`re a certain type of person. A good solution is a gap year in industry. 2 yrs of uni, a year off working for a company (who might even sponsor you) then final year. U`ll probably be able to get a job back with the company when u graduate, plus you`ll have a bit more industry experience than the other fledglings.

27-04-2007, 09:32	#71 (permalink)
stankoff New media designer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 2	IMHO Nah, natural talent and flair is good enough

27-04-2007, 10:12	#72 (permalink)
Mik Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,861	not if you want to be a dentist.

27-04-2007, 11:26	#73 (permalink)
b v Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 462	or a neurosurgeon

28-04-2007, 17:11	#74 (permalink)
another™ another graphic designer Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 152	hi, i'm new, second year degree student. i would have said talent when i was on HND, where it was just going through the motions till the end and a piece of paper, but degree has opened my eyes to how naiive untrained desingers can be, simple things like type rules and semiotics that would have escaped me (and did) before we had training. it's the reason we have all these 'professional' designers, who you just know have a copy of Photoshop 5.5 and little more. no consideration for type, or restraint, the things that come with training. but ideally, you need talent and training.

28-04-2007, 17:27	#75 (permalink)
Maerk Doodler. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,422	No degree here and managed fine, that said, if I'd gone straight from learning a bit of photoshop to declaring myself a designer (like far too many do), then yes - rather pathetic. I've learned a vast amount of my skills on the job from other designers, in an agency environment. So I suppose in a way I've been trained, but it's been down to my own ability to absorb knowledge and it hasn't been formal. Can go either way I suppose. (was doing so well resisting replying to the dredged up thread, but couldn't not reply to last post hehe) __________________ sreski portfolio & scrapbook.sreski blog

01-05-2007, 12:48	#76 (permalink)
LoganX Jedi WebMaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 26	I left uni after 1 year of my degree to continue working as a junior at a web design company I had spent the summer with, they taught me more than I was learning in uni. After nearly a year with them I got a job as a web designer for the BBC where I spent over 6 years building my portfolio which has now helped my gain an even better job. But the BBC did require a degree for senior designer/team leader roles and even though they knew I had the experience their policy stated that the job would only go to an applicant with a degree. So I think your own natural talent will take you most of the way but a degree might help you get that little bit further.

01-05-2007, 13:50	#77 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	What ever happened to people going to college/university for education instead of to get a job? Who cares what your degree is in. Just get an education.

01-05-2007, 16:06	#79 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	Art. History. Science. Culture. Philosophy. Math. You don't learn these things working at an agency. And if you don't learn them in art school, as was my experience, teach yourself.

01-05-2007, 19:38	#80 (permalink)
Maerk Doodler. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,422	Aye education is tres important, wouldn't consider myself ill-educated just happen to be degreeless myself. Always consider learning to be an important thing, always more stuff to know Though can see the downside to a degree for the sake of having one for the experience, here at least its a huge bloody financial hole, i still owe from my brief stint in a degree that didn't take __________________ sreski portfolio & scrapbook.sreski blog

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