Old 27-07-2006, 14:14   #1 (permalink)
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getting better

I started off bad, and i mean extremely bad.
then i got better but i was still bad.
now i reckon after alot of hard work and alot of css training that for someone who started 5/6 months ago, im not bad.

what i would like to know is that if i want to get better what shall i do, i mean you can learn more and more things right. but there comes a point where you just have to put it into practice.

i have considered making small advertising websites for local buisnesses (as in ones that you cant buy stuff from), or offering to make people small websites free of charge over the internet (as in 4/5 pages)

the thing is, i dont think anyone will take me seriously-im really only halfway through high school.

thanks

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Old 27-07-2006, 14:49   #2 (permalink)
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why would you want to be taken seriously if you're only halfway through high school? Stop messing about with code, get some beer down you and try and shag all the fit birds (or boys if you swing that way) you can.

If you really enjoy making sites, bollocks to dealing with local businesses, they'll make you work for peanuts, jump through hoops, and not pay you for months, and then someone who needs thier business will go hungry.

A few self initiated projects is the way to go. Make a blog, or a site for sharing all your photos with your friends, do a website for your family - you know, something you and the people around you will find useful. Then you'll be motivated to keep learning.
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Old 27-07-2006, 15:12   #3 (permalink)
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Mike's right.
Buy yourself a domain name and decent hosting, or if you've got no money, you could always ask your parents to pay for it. It's not expensive. Then dabble away all you want.
This is the best way to put it into practice. No business is going to come to you unless they can see what you capable of.
Build your own site, try out new things and keep learning.
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Old 27-07-2006, 15:17   #4 (permalink)
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Graduate high school, go to college, possibly doing some freelance stuff while you're getting your education.

You're too young to be taken seriously. But that's OK. You're not in any rush to do anything. Just enjoy your youth while you have it. Once you get out of college and get a "real job" you'll miss it if you spent your time making brochure sites for local businesses.

You've started early, which is a great thing. But do what mike said - make some play sites - blogs, photo gallerys, family/friends, and so on. Improve yourself while you're at a point in your life that you can devote time to study.

Don't worry about being productive when you're 15 or 16. Just enjoy yourself.
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Old 27-07-2006, 15:27   #5 (permalink)
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thanks

Thanks guys thats alot of help, i will do.
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Old 27-07-2006, 20:50   #6 (permalink)
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seems like a decent time to post and stop lurking.

Usually, anything you did in highschool you are going to find useless as a portfolio piece when you are ready to get serious. Some times this will also go for any work you will do in College. Start out with your own sites, do sites for friends. When you get some experience and education under your belt you will have an easier time finding projects here and there for businesses and you will have a better idea how to handle yourself. People WILL try to screw you because A) they don't understand our business and B) They are people.

Once you get to that point you will probably have a pretty strong portfolio and people will take you that much more seriously.
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Old 27-07-2006, 22:12   #7 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanarts
Mike's right.
Buy yourself a domain name and decent hosting, or if you've got no money, you could always ask your parents to pay for it. It's not expensive. Then dabble away all you want.
This is the best way to put it into practice. No business is going to come to you unless they can see what you capable of.
Build your own site, try out new things and keep learning.

Total agree..
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Old 29-07-2006, 13:29   #8 (permalink)
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Old 29-07-2006, 13:50   #9 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zakalwe

Did you make that site?
If so: Have you any idea how much copyright you've just infringed?
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Old 29-07-2006, 13:58   #10 (permalink)
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Did you make that site?
If so: Have you any idea how much copyright you've just infringed?
I really don't think it matters. I've seen plenty of direct zen garden replicas around - it's sort of its purpose...
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Old 31-07-2006, 05:26   #11 (permalink)
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this has got to be a joke.
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Old 31-07-2006, 17:07   #12 (permalink)
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Presumably that's an example of some of his css work, using zen as a markup base.
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