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BugJam · 10-04-2003, 11:05

YugoP

Add yours...

smallbeer · 10-04-2003, 19:13

I'm not a hundred percent what you mean but the guy that has the most influence on me at teh moment is Doug Bowman

andrewparker · 15-04-2003, 08:29

As much as i hate and grit my teeth to say it - Jakob Neilsen is the biggest player in web design......

TriPixels · 22-05-2003, 23:22

Who is Jakob Nielson? What's the website?

I personally think that Nick Colomb is

lol... jk

I do want to find out one thing though... how do you get local businesses to hire you as a web designer?

Brooklyn · 23-05-2003, 02:35

[quote:9a2841e2ea="andrewparker"]As much as i hate and grit my teeth to say it - Jakob Neilsen is the biggest player in web design......[/quote:9a2841e2ea]

Also the Biggest Tw@t.

Brooklyn · 23-05-2003, 02:38

[quote:56bf80acc4="TriPixels"]Who is Jakob Nielson? What's the website?[/quote:56bf80acc4]

Jakob Nielsen:: http://www.useit.com Probably the worst looking and unusable sitein the world... Oh the irony!

My current Guru is [b:56bf80acc4]Jeffery Veen[/b:56bf80acc4] [The Art and Science of Web Design]. Same methodology as Nielson on usability, but still keeps it fun and more designer orientated.

And · 23-05-2003, 06:22

Jeffrey Zeldman has to be my current fave http://www.zeldman.com

maegg · 01-06-2003, 13:03

1st post here. Zeldman gets my vote too!

Have to say that Nielson site is butt ugly. Too many links randomly placed. I had to look away hehe.

Luke Redpath · 02-06-2003, 17:09

[quote:3e905fdeb6="Brooklyn"][quote:3e905fdeb6="TriPixels"]Who is Jakob Nielson? What's the website?[/quote:3e905fdeb6]

Jakob Nielsen:: http://www.useit.com Probably the worst looking and unusable sitein the world... Oh the irony!.[/quote:3e905fdeb6]

And also horrendously out of date:

[quote:3e905fdeb6]
Download times rule the Web, and since most users have access speeds on the order of [b:3e905fdeb6]28.8 kbps[/b:3e905fdeb6], Web pages can be no more than 3 KB if they are to download in one second which is the required response time for hypertext navigation. Users do not keep their attention on the page if downloading exceeds 10 seconds, corresponding to 30 KB at modem speed. Keeping below these size limits rules out most graphics. [/quote:3e905fdeb6]

What's he smoking?

Anyway, I'm definately a zeldman fan.

dorian · 02-06-2003, 17:55

made me wonder... do you think he's got any pictures on his walls

Mr Nielsen that is...

dan · 02-06-2003, 19:10

nah, just the scrawlings of a madman enclosed in outdated <FONT> tags...

[quote:4fa02e693f]Users do not keep their attention on the page if downloading exceeds 10 seconds, corresponding to 30 KB at modem speed. Keeping below these size limits rules out most graphics. [/quote:4fa02e693f]

Users also tend to pay little attention to pages consisting of nothing but reams of text, but I guess that doesn't matter either

dorian · 02-06-2003, 22:27

hah... I can imagine the stationary!
business cards and letterhead paper is probably printed out from a ms word template - on ordinary paper naturally

oli · 03-06-2003, 04:11

.. and I bet he drives a nice sensible fuel-economic car

And · 03-06-2003, 04:15

He's coming over to London later this year for a series of talks - http://www.nngroup.com/events/london/agenda.html

I take it you will all be snapping up tickets?

oli · 03-06-2003, 04:31

zzzz

looks interesting :: http://www.nngroup.com/events/tutorials/testing_enjoyment.html not for £400 tho.

And · 03-06-2003, 04:43

Is that how much it is? Hardly [b:ad6ef896e6]accessible[/b:ad6ef896e6] is it?

Bill Posters · 03-06-2003, 05:32

[quote:8c8d7d3291="oli"].. and I bet he drives a nice sensible fuel-economic car

[/quote:8c8d7d3291]

I imagine he drives a Volvo.
It's only fitting seeing as they both sound like a c**t.

dorian · 03-06-2003, 06:35

considering his scandinavian background - quite likely... his surname sounds danish anyway... guess there is no connection with k10k there

Bill Posters · 03-06-2003, 06:53

[quote:0776ff45df="dorian"]considering his scandinavian background - quite likely... his surname sounds danish anyway... guess there is no connection with k10k there

[/quote:0776ff45df]

I recall Nielsen once tried to sabotage the K10K site as a form of protest against "ungood userbilityness and accessibilitation".
Of course, Nielsen being Nielsen, with his customary lack of imagination, this never amounted to anything more than him spraying 'Jakob's rules rule ok' in red paint across his own monitor.

Poor Jakob. :cry:

TriPixels · 07-06-2003, 13:18

Cool...

Well, I don't know who the powerplayers really are though... I don't know too many freelancers, or loan designers... I've been thinking about that kind of stuff lately...

Oh well...

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smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,238	I'm not a hundred percent what you mean but the guy that has the most influence on me at teh moment is Doug Bowman __________________ That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch.

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andrewparker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 991	As much as i hate and grit my teeth to say it - Jakob Neilsen is the biggest player in web design...... __________________ Andrew Parker --------------------- (Apple PowerBook G4 1.67GHz / 1Gb RAM / OS X / Safari )

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TriPixels A Hardcore Relaxer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elizabethtown, KY, USA Posts: 230	Who is Jakob Nielson? What's the website? I personally think that Nick Colomb is lol... jk I do want to find out one thing though... how do you get local businesses to hire you as a web designer? __________________ How much longer before you click on my link? CLICK MY LINK

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Luke Redpath Barney army! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London Posts: 696	[quote:3e905fdeb6="Brooklyn"][quote:3e905fdeb6="TriPixels"]Who is Jakob Nielson? What's the website?[/quote:3e905fdeb6] Jakob Nielsen:: http://www.useit.com Probably the worst looking and unusable sitein the world... Oh the irony!.[/quote:3e905fdeb6] And also horrendously out of date: [quote:3e905fdeb6] Download times rule the Web, and since most users have access speeds on the order of [b:3e905fdeb6]28.8 kbps[/b:3e905fdeb6], Web pages can be no more than 3 KB if they are to download in one second which is the required response time for hypertext navigation. Users do not keep their attention on the page if downloading exceeds 10 seconds, corresponding to 30 KB at modem speed. Keeping below these size limits rules out most graphics. [/quote:3e905fdeb6] What's he smoking? Anyway, I'm definately a zeldman fan. __________________ Luke Redpath .::. Software Engineer .::. Reevoo - Real Reviews From Real Customers

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Brooklyn Anarchist by Accident... Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oxfordshire UK Posts: 137	[quote:9a2841e2ea="andrewparker"]As much as i hate and grit my teeth to say it - Jakob Neilsen is the biggest player in web design......[/quote:9a2841e2ea] Also the Biggest Tw@t.

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Brooklyn Anarchist by Accident... Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oxfordshire UK Posts: 137	[quote:56bf80acc4="TriPixels"]Who is Jakob Nielson? What's the website?[/quote:56bf80acc4] Jakob Nielsen:: http://www.useit.com Probably the worst looking and unusable sitein the world... Oh the irony! My current Guru is [b:56bf80acc4]Jeffery Veen[/b:56bf80acc4] [The Art and Science of Web Design]. Same methodology as Nielson on usability, but still keeps it fun and more designer orientated.

23-05-2003, 06:22	#7 (permalink)
And Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 103	Jeffrey Zeldman has to be my current fave http://www.zeldman.com

01-06-2003, 13:03	#8 (permalink)
maegg Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1	1st post here. Zeldman gets my vote too! Have to say that Nielson site is butt ugly. Too many links randomly placed. I had to look away hehe.

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dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,236	made me wonder... do you think he's got any pictures on his walls Mr Nielsen that is... __________________ ...

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dan Iris Folder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: smokey Posts: 2,676	nah, just the scrawlings of a madman enclosed in outdated <FONT> tags... [quote:4fa02e693f]Users do not keep their attention on the page if downloading exceeds 10 seconds, corresponding to 30 KB at modem speed. Keeping below these size limits rules out most graphics. [/quote:4fa02e693f] Users also tend to pay little attention to pages consisting of nothing but reams of text, but I guess that doesn't matter either

02-06-2003, 22:27	#12 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,236	hah... I can imagine the stationary! business cards and letterhead paper is probably printed out from a ms word template - on ordinary paper naturally __________________ ...

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oli Free Ring Ding™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 9,612	.. and I bet he drives a nice sensible fuel-economic car

03-06-2003, 04:15	#14 (permalink)
And Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 103	He's coming over to London later this year for a series of talks - http://www.nngroup.com/events/london/agenda.html I take it you will all be snapping up tickets?

03-06-2003, 04:31	#15 (permalink)
oli Free Ring Ding™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 9,612	zzzz looks interesting :: http://www.nngroup.com/events/tutorials/testing_enjoyment.html not for £400 tho.

03-06-2003, 04:43	#16 (permalink)
And Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 103	Is that how much it is? Hardly [b:ad6ef896e6]accessible[/b:ad6ef896e6] is it?

03-06-2003, 05:32	#17 (permalink)
Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,926	[quote:8c8d7d3291="oli"].. and I bet he drives a nice sensible fuel-economic car [/quote:8c8d7d3291] I imagine he drives a Volvo. It's only fitting seeing as they both sound like a c**t.

03-06-2003, 06:35	#18 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,236	considering his scandinavian background - quite likely... his surname sounds danish anyway... guess there is no connection with k10k there __________________ ...

03-06-2003, 06:53	#19 (permalink)
Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,926	[quote:0776ff45df="dorian"]considering his scandinavian background - quite likely... his surname sounds danish anyway... guess there is no connection with k10k there[/quote:0776ff45df] I recall Nielsen once tried to sabotage the K10K site as a form of protest against "ungood userbilityness and accessibilitation". Of course, Nielsen being Nielsen, with his customary lack of imagination, this never amounted to anything more than him spraying 'Jakob's rules rule ok' in red paint across his own monitor. Poor Jakob. :cry:

07-06-2003, 13:18	#20 (permalink)
TriPixels A Hardcore Relaxer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elizabethtown, KY, USA Posts: 230	Cool... Well, I don't know who the powerplayers really are though... I don't know too many freelancers, or loan designers... I've been thinking about that kind of stuff lately... Oh well... __________________ How much longer before you click on my link? CLICK MY LINK

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