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Sleep Mode · 11-07-2006, 08:22

Im referring to the professional web designers. My question is : How do you do it? How do you design so good-looking web sites? How do you adjust the tones of the colors?

Im trying to design some web sites, but i can't do it like the templates that i have found from the internet. I started this April, 2.5 months passed but i can not create professional web sites. Do you think i should quit on this web designing? But i really love it. Or what do you offer me? How would i improve myself?

Narate · 11-07-2006, 08:26

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I started this April, 2.5 months passed but i can not create professional web sites. Do you think i should quit on this web designing?

You answered your own question numnuts, do you know of anybody who became a professional after 3 months?

I would say "No stick with it and you'll get there eventually" but I think you should quit.

lukasarts · 11-07-2006, 09:34

Are you expecting a magic answer that will turn you into the best web designer ever? Here's a tip- open Google, type tutorials, hit enter. Repeat.

Dusteh · 11-07-2006, 09:53

give up now.

gray · 11-07-2006, 10:12

haha narate been in a bad mood for weeks now

funkyprem · 11-07-2006, 10:34

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Originally Posted by Sleep Mode

How do you do it?

with my eyes closed.

stylin328 · 11-07-2006, 12:13

Well first of all you can learn the technical things of building a website but you cant really be taught to be creative, you just have that. Keep working at it and coming to these forums looking at other peoples work and how they do it and you will get better. This place has alot of talented people so you will learn alot. Theres no list we can give you to make you better, you gotta just stick with it and keep designing. Goodluck

datahound · 11-07-2006, 12:33

Some people are naturally artistic, some people can draw, some people can't.

If you are not artisitic you cannot make yourself.

Try programming instead.

pgo · 11-07-2006, 13:14

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Originally Posted by Sleep Mode

I started this April, 2.5 months passed but i can not create professional web sites.

So? I couldn't do crap after 2.5 months.

Read, study, learn, absorb for 2.5 years - not months.

If you want to be a professional (at anything), you can't give up so easily.

d*d · 11-07-2006, 13:27

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Originally Posted by datahound

Some people are naturally artistic, some people can draw, some people can't.

If you are not artisitic you cannot make yourself.

Isn't a well known fact that most designers can't actually draw

datahound · 11-07-2006, 13:30

There's a cue for a poll..

dan · 11-07-2006, 14:56

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Originally Posted by d*d

Isn't a well known fact that most designers can't actually draw

I never get this. I think all the designers I know can draw. Depends what you call draw, but they can all structure a composition and deal with perspective. Who comes up with all these statements anyway.

pgo · 11-07-2006, 15:15

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Originally Posted by dan

I never get this. I think all the designers I know can draw. Depends what you call draw, but they can all structure a composition and deal with perspective. Who comes up with all these statements anyway.

I don't know. In my experience, all the kids at art school who couldn't draw or had little to no artistic talent chose graphic design as their major.

Of course, that's not to say that the people in GD couldn't draw - many of them could. It's just that most people who couldn't went into GD, ID, Communication, or something where they could use a computer to "fake it".

Sleep Mode · 11-07-2006, 18:31

Thank you for the ones that take the question seriously.
May be my way of asking seems silly, i couldn't express you what im thinking about. I mean that my drawing or painting in real is not good, and has not been ever. But i'm really interested on this and i love this. Yes i would go on programming, but i wanna do both on web (not client programming).
Is there need for so much time for designing really? Because in real time, if a person has got talent on drawing or painting, you can easily realize that. If a person has'nt got talent, how long ever he/she try and work about it, the reality doesn't change.
So do you think (from now on) after working about it for 3-4 months, will my design ability change?
I examined more than 2000-3000 templates since i have started this. I'm graduating after 1 year,(from computer engineering) and i will start a new job and i want it to be about web designing & programming. I don't have too much time. And also i get new small web site jobs such as small companies and earn money. But i just modify the free templates, that's all. I wonder if i will be ever designing a web site such as the templates on the web...

sjd · 11-07-2006, 19:43

A good artist does not necessarily make a good web designer and vice versa.

There is more to web design than pretty pictures. User interface design, graphic (aesthetic) design, system (functionality e.g. cms / template) design, information architecture design, usability, accessibility, etc etc. You could carve your niche into any or all of these aspects.

Don't wonder whether you will ever be designing a web site that looks like any of the templates you've seen. A template is nothing on it's own (unless you plan to make your money selling templates for peanuts to template archive sites).

You need to be more than a good designer to make it as an entrepreneur. Business acumen and a keen interest to name but a few.

You will not be successful at anything unless you're prepared to put time into it.

Start within your boundaries and your ability will grow with your experience. It sounds like you have an eye for design - you know what you like - so you'll get there in the end.

finbarr · 12-07-2006, 04:55

dont expect to know anything within the first 6 months... if you dont think you can wait that long then give up now.
I done a years course in web design and it taught me jack-shit (thats a lie it taught me what not to do - tables, DW code etc). Only by getting a junior role was I able to learn what looks good and what doesnt and that was often because I was surrounded by people who were willing to teach and show me stuff

Narate · 12-07-2006, 05:09

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Isn't a well known fact that most designers can't actually draw

I fall into that category, unless 'shabby-chic' drawings are still cool. Although I saw some hundred page thread on a different forum where a guy went from drawing stickmen to pre-raphelite styled paintings. Just practise innnnnit

pgo · 12-07-2006, 11:46

I saw that, too. Impressive progress. Technical skill can be learned, but doesn't make one an artist.

bahulu · 13-07-2006, 10:09

hey... just take time man. designing skills come with time...
you have to do just one thing... learn Photoshop do a lot of tutorials... go surfing everyday.

Because if your skills and knowledge in Photoshop or Fireworks grows so u are more flexibel you can mix more styles and u know how the effects are done right.

So just keep practicing and try to rebuild work of others... to learn how they achieve some effects...

So all the best
josef

fetusface · 13-07-2006, 12:20

I would just say give up now. Everyone thinks its easy to do and im glad you learn't your lesson that its an art.

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Sleep Mode Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2	How do you do it? Im referring to the professional web designers. My question is : How do you do it? How do you design so good-looking web sites? How do you adjust the tones of the colors? Im trying to design some web sites, but i can't do it like the templates that i have found from the internet. I started this April, 2.5 months passed but i can not create professional web sites. Do you think i should quit on this web designing? But i really love it. Or what do you offer me? How would i improve myself?

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bahulu Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: <? area="germany"; ?> Posts: 6	dont quit hey... just take time man. designing skills come with time... you have to do just one thing... learn Photoshop do a lot of tutorials... go surfing everyday. Because if your skills and knowledge in Photoshop or Fireworks grows so u are more flexibel you can mix more styles and u know how the effects are done right. So just keep practicing and try to rebuild work of others... to learn how they achieve some effects... So all the best josef

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11-07-2006, 09:34	#3 (permalink)
lukasarts Shiv. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 1,110	Are you expecting a magic answer that will turn you into the best web designer ever? Here's a tip- open Google, type tutorials, hit enter. Repeat.

11-07-2006, 09:53	#4 (permalink)
Dusteh Sir digby chicken caesar Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,382	give up now.

11-07-2006, 10:12	#5 (permalink)
gray i still want paying Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: newcastle, uk Posts: 4,836	haha narate been in a bad mood for weeks now

11-07-2006, 12:13	#7 (permalink)
stylin328 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 332	Well first of all you can learn the technical things of building a website but you cant really be taught to be creative, you just have that. Keep working at it and coming to these forums looking at other peoples work and how they do it and you will get better. This place has alot of talented people so you will learn alot. Theres no list we can give you to make you better, you gotta just stick with it and keep designing. Goodluck

11-07-2006, 18:31	#14 (permalink)
Sleep Mode Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2	Thank you for the ones that take the question seriously. May be my way of asking seems silly, i couldn't express you what im thinking about. I mean that my drawing or painting in real is not good, and has not been ever. But i'm really interested on this and i love this. Yes i would go on programming, but i wanna do both on web (not client programming). Is there need for so much time for designing really? Because in real time, if a person has got talent on drawing or painting, you can easily realize that. If a person has'nt got talent, how long ever he/she try and work about it, the reality doesn't change. So do you think (from now on) after working about it for 3-4 months, will my design ability change? I examined more than 2000-3000 templates since i have started this. I'm graduating after 1 year,(from computer engineering) and i will start a new job and i want it to be about web designing & programming. I don't have too much time. And also i get new small web site jobs such as small companies and earn money. But i just modify the free templates, that's all. I wonder if i will be ever designing a web site such as the templates on the web...

11-07-2006, 19:43	#15 (permalink)
sjd Registered Abuser Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London, England. Posts: 187	A good artist does not necessarily make a good web designer and vice versa. There is more to web design than pretty pictures. User interface design, graphic (aesthetic) design, system (functionality e.g. cms / template) design, information architecture design, usability, accessibility, etc etc. You could carve your niche into any or all of these aspects. Don't wonder whether you will ever be designing a web site that looks like any of the templates you've seen. A template is nothing on it's own (unless you plan to make your money selling templates for peanuts to template archive sites). You need to be more than a good designer to make it as an entrepreneur. Business acumen and a keen interest to name but a few. You will not be successful at anything unless you're prepared to put time into it. Start within your boundaries and your ability will grow with your experience. It sounds like you have an eye for design - you know what you like - so you'll get there in the end.

12-07-2006, 04:55	#16 (permalink)
finbarr who the fuck am i? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: london Posts: 2,670	dont expect to know anything within the first 6 months... if you dont think you can wait that long then give up now. I done a years course in web design and it taught me jack-shit (thats a lie it taught me what not to do - tables, DW code etc). Only by getting a junior role was I able to learn what looks good and what doesnt and that was often because I was surrounded by people who were willing to teach and show me stuff

12-07-2006, 11:46	#18 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	I saw that, too. Impressive progress. Technical skill can be learned, but doesn't make one an artist.

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fetusface ™™™™™™™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 485	I would just say give up now. Everyone thinks its easy to do and im glad you learn't your lesson that its an art.

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