[weldo]

Originally Posted by Stickman

I know a bloke who was paid to put jam in doughnuts. He could decide how much jam goes in, whether to weight the jam to one side, whether it was sealed properly and he had loads of doughnuts to do each morning and every one could be unique.

Was his job creative? Discuss.

Jam - No.
Custard - Yes !

I knew a man that ate one of the afore mentioned donuts and it created a jobbie.

[Mik]

Originally Posted by Stickman

I know a bloke who was paid to put jam in doughnuts. He could decide how much jam goes in, whether to weight the jam to one side, whether it was sealed properly and he had loads of doughnuts to do each morning and every one could be unique.

Was his job creative? Discuss.

could he choose which flavour?

[Stickman]

No custard, no choosing flavours. And he started at dawn.

[finbarr]

Originally Posted by Ytrav4

I think when makeing food you have ample room for creativity, it appeals to the sinces, taste, touch, smell, and looks. And only has one function and one fate, to reach the toilet.

talk about looking only at the negatives

[weldo]

Originally Posted by Ytrav4

... And only has one function and one fate, to reach the toilet....

Ha - well that's where I win, then.
I shit my kecks !!

weldo - 1
food - nil.

Result.

[Ytrav4]

I'm happy to see this post has gained the most replys in at least the last 5 last pages, and has provided very stimulated conversation untill the point it was wrecked with doughnuts. And that's without trolling.

[Stickman]

Doughnuts are art.

[weldo]

Originally Posted by Ytrav4

I'm happy to see this post has gained the most replys in at least the last 5 last pages, and has provided very stimulated conversation untill the point it was wrecked with doughnuts. And that's without trolling.

I'm glad you're happy.

Personally, I'd rather talk about donuts (or if you prefer to give them their full name - doughnuts) than go round in circles trying to sound intellectual, but just stating the obvious and spelling it badly.

But that's just me.

[Ytrav4]

Originally Posted by weldo

I'm glad you're happy.

Personally, I'd rather talk about donuts (or if you prefer to give them their full name - doughnuts) than go round in circles trying to sound intellectual, but just stating the obvious and spelling it badly.

But that's just me.

First we may begin to define intellectual....the dictonary states......lol jokeing

,but really I find it fun to be challenged, no-bull shit to it, it's just me. And I do think it is worth something to get others to think, I like cuz I get so many perspectives, sometimes I just rant on about something I know is a load, just to see the arguements aganst it. I may chill on the bigger words though, it makes me look pretentious.

[Dusteh]

you are right D*D, I messed up my use of the term creative.

What I actually meant to say all along is that some people are naturally predisposed to either logical or ARTISTIC roles... and its rare to find someone exceptional at both. Both are equally creative, as the programmers have rightfully pointed out.

95% of us are perfectly capable of learning any damned thing we want.

No way! Thats a humanist dream, like the people who tried to argue that Einsteins brain was physically different because he had studied so hard it had grown that way. Nurture over nature. Utter rubbish, he was born different, with radically advanced spatial-mathematical awareness. You can study whatever you want, and if you try hard enough you will do well, but that still doesnt change the fact that you naturally prefer one or the other.

[Ytrav4]

Originally Posted by Dusteh

you are right D*D, I messed up my use of the term creative.

What I actually meant to say all along is that some people are naturally predisposed to either logical or ARTISTIC roles... and its rare to find someone exceptional at both. Both are equally creative, as the programmers have rightfully pointed out.



No way! Thats a humanist dream, like the people who tried to argue that Einsteins brain was physically different because he had studied so hard it had grown that way. Nurture over nature. Utter rubbish, he was born different, with radically advanced spatial-mathematical awareness. You can study whatever you want, and if you try hard enough you will do well, but that still doesnt change the fact that you naturally prefer one or the other.

I dont think anyone is argueing, that we don't have our limits.
I do think there is a natural disposition to one side, as I said I think the theory is correct, but not to the degree that people make, most of the time the people that use that for a exuse didn't push themselves to the point to know their capabilities.

The point I think being made is for the most part we are only limited by the point we are willing to surrender, when we give up that is a choice, we are are physically incapable it's not. I think you have a very valid point, but I don't think anyone is argueing with you.

[bigcloud]

Originally Posted by Stickman

I know a bloke who was paid to put jam in doughnuts. He could decide how much jam goes in, whether to weight the jam to one side, whether it was sealed properly and he had loads of doughnuts to do each morning and every one could be unique.

Was his job creative? Discuss.

Hey now... I used to be a baker and... well, I resemble that remark.

functions and routines (even jelly) creative? Hell yeah! It's can be very challenging/rewarding coming up with a creative solution (sometimes only to be foiled by a stubborn client) to a technical hurdle. I'll be the first to say I enjoy the creative coding environment as much as I do finding the right blending mode for my highlights.

Which side does creativity live on.. the side of form or funtion?

[NIXONlive]

I'm just a graphic designer, i know nothing of that ugly coding skill . nor do i know flash, just photoshop..

[d*d]

Originally Posted by Dusteh

you are right D*D, I messed up my use of the term creative.

What I actually meant to say all along is that some people are naturally predisposed to either logical or ARTISTIC roles... and its rare to find someone exceptional at both. Both are equally creative, as the programmers have rightfully pointed out.

Then why is it only in the past few hundred years has that Art and Maths have become these polar opposite of ability, Davinci and michaelangelo were both damn fine mathemeticians - because back then it was normal for scholars to practice both.

[Dusteh]

both lefties as well if i remember correctly, the freaks!

[Oto]

Well, I know those ones:

Desgin:
Adobe Photoshop, Macromedia Fireworks, Corel Draw, HTML, CSS (CSS2, CSS3), XHTML

Coding:
PHP, MySQL, JavaScript, XML


Am I web developer?

[superstoffe]

There's a huge difference of knowing, beeing good at and have an eye for. There's lots of people knowing Photoshop, or CSS, or PHP, or whatever, but can't adapt it right.

"I know this, and that.. blabla.." Doesn't mean a shit, it's how you use your skills that matters.

[pgo]

Originally Posted by Oto

Well, I know those ones:

Desgin:
Adobe Photoshop, Macromedia Fireworks, Corel Draw, HTML, CSS (CSS2, CSS3), XHTML

Coding:
PHP, MySQL, JavaScript, XML


Am I web developer?

Sure, but as superstoffe said, you'd have to prove that you're good at what you do.

And do you really know CSS3? I haven't really bothered to look at it much since browser support is basically non-existent and it's not even a W3C recommendation yet.

[Oto]

Originally Posted by pgo

Sure, but as superstoffe said, you'd have to prove that you're good at what you do.

And do you really know CSS3? I haven't really bothered to look at it much since browser support is basically non-existent and it's not even a W3C recommendation yet.

Well... I'm 16 and I work for Web Studio in my country, maybe I know my work

Yeah, I know CSS3, but to say the truth I don't like it very much. There are too many and unusable functions added And as you said it's not a W3C recommendation yet and some browsers don't support CSS3.

[superstoffe]

Ehh..