[sam.usability]

I encounter few usability issues with this site, some of them are,

1. There is no focus in the user name and password field.
After entering user id, we do normally press the tab key to go to next field,
That time the field should get activated, and i selected this field by
clicking, but even after that the field is not getting focused.

2. What is that "checkbox" right to password.
A normal user cannot understand what for that option is.

3. Post login detail "You last visited: Yesterday at 08:31 "
I think it would be better if you could give the date format also like
07/08/2007. Because if I am flying from US to any Asian country there will
be a gap on one day.
4. In the time detail you have to mention whether the time is "AM" or "PM".
"08:31" can have two possibility. It's hard for a user to identify which type
you are using, i mean 24 or 12 based.

There are few more issues, that i will mention in my next post.

[freelancr]

fuck off

[sam.usability]

Great yaar, keep it up.

[steveb]

If you don't log out, you never need to see the password fields ever again.
The checkbox is only for decoration and to confuse programmers and retards.
I'd really like to know why you need precise information about when you last visited the board. I recommend you fly to Asian countries via Europe, thus avoiding the Intl Date Line.

[Anxious]

Originally Posted by sam.usability

4. In the time detail you have to mention whether the time is "AM" or "PM".
"08:31" can have two possibility. It's hard for a user to identify which type
you are using, i mean 24 or 12 based.

Wait, we're not using the Thai six hour clock? This needs to be made clear!

Thai six-hour clock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[djeglin]

Originally Posted by sam.usability

1. There is no focus in the user name and password field.
After entering user id, we do normally press the tab key to go to next field,
That time the field should get activated, and i selected this field by
clicking, but even after that the field is not getting focused.

You only need to see this once on any given machine, and I have never, ever had a problem activating the text boxes.

Originally Posted by sam.usability

2. What is that "checkbox" right to password.
A normal user cannot understand what for that option is.

I am guessing that is the "remember me" checkbox to ensure you stay logged in. Yes, it could do with labelling, but it is checked by default, and is not hugely prominent to draw attention to itself.

Originally Posted by sam.usability

3. Post login detail "You last visited: Yesterday at 08:31 "
I think it would be better if you could give the date format also like
07/08/2007. Because if I am flying from US to any Asian country there will
be a gap on one day.

Dont be bloody stupid. ALL usability gurus say that relative time stamping is much more user friendly than giving the full date when the article in question was today or yesterday etc. Yes, you *could* travel across the oceans and change timezone, but then you can also change your timezone in the forum preferences, can't you?

Originally Posted by sam.usability

4. In the time detail you have to mention whether the time is "AM" or "PM".
"08:31" can have two possibility. It's hard for a user to identify which type
you are using, i mean 24 or 12 based.

Learn your formats before you go spouting shit, man! Several indicators here: Number one, the hour is written with two digits even though it is a one digit hour. Number two, there is a colon ( : ) as opposed to a period ( . ) separating the hours from the minutes. Number three, there is no AM or PM marker. Its a 24 hour clock. Everyone, with absolutely any, any, any sense knows that. Where its AM/PM, you indicate it. If its 24 hour, you just write the time. What else would you suggest doing? Putting "24 hour clock" in big flashing red letters beside it?!

So now you've been shot down and made to look thoroughly stupid by someone who knows what they are talking about, are you going to fuck off and shut up? We don't want your business. We're also a forum of experts (well... some people :P). If you had come in with something really useful, I would have been the first person to say "You have a point". But when you come here, clearly with no idea what you're on about, no appreciation for the target audience of the site, no thought about why certain things are like they are, and try and pass yourself off as a usability analist, i get really pissed off.

So thanks for your "observations", but we don't need them.

David

[Lotricthus]

[sam.usability]

HI David,

Thank for your comments,

Look at gmail login page, where also we have same type of field, "user name" and "password". See how nicely it working with out giving any confuse for the user.

Still you are not sure what's 4 that "checkbox". Being a User Experience Architect you are still guessing that, this may be for "remember me" option. (Then you think about a normal user!)

Yesterday option is ok. Each time we cannot change time setting as you said. Let the system take the risk, why should i change the time day by day once i set my region.

There are people who use 08:40 AM for morning and 08:40 for Evening.
Hope! you know the meaning of AM and PM. If not please see this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Meridiem

After All we are not going to loose anything by giving clear information to the end user. All Usability Gurus says that "never make the user to think". So David take little more time before you comment and assess. And would appreciate if you could not use unparliamentary words.

[Anxious]

Originally Posted by sam.usability

After All we are not going to loose anything by giving clear information to the end user. All Usability Gurus says that "never make the user to think". So David take little more time before you comment and assess. And would appreciate if you could not use unparliamentary words.

I don't know what the word 'unparliamentary' means - you've just made me (the user) think!

ETA:

unparliamentary

adjective
so rude and abusive as to be unsuitable for parliament

aaah.

[funkyprem]

Originally Posted by sam.usability

I think it would be better if you could give the date format also like 07/08/2007.

you may consider yourself to be an expert in usability (personally i think no where near), but obviously internationalisation is beyond you.

do you relise that that date you quoted I understand to be todays date of 7th august, but to someone in the states it would be read as 8th of july? perhaps not.

the system in practice here works just fine. maybe you should set up your idea of an ideal forum and put it in the showcase section of this site.

[funkyprem]

Originally Posted by funkyprem

internationalisation

unparliamentary

adjective
so rude and abusive as to be unsuitable for parliament

depends on the parliament as to what is defined as unsuitable!

for example YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[funkyprem]

well that was a waste of my thousandth post!!!!

[Anxious]

Originally Posted by funkyprem

well that was a waste of my thousandth post!!!!

Haha, congratulations! Alternatively, just delete it and make a more profound statement instead!

[djeglin]

Originally Posted by sam.usability

Still you are not sure what's 4 that "checkbox". Being a User Experience Architect you are still guessing that, this may be for "remember me" option. (Then you think about a normal user!)

Nitpicking here. The guess was in an attempt to explain to you. You notice here that nobody else has asked the question of what it does? I used to work to a principle with usability analysis - an "expert" review doesnt mean anything if the users say different. Also, as I said, you need to look at the audience when you're making these comments. This isnt a community of middle aged mums at home. Most of the people here are web professionals, or at very least enthusiasts - Do you really think they are going to struggle with the principle of a login form?!

Originally Posted by sam.usability

Yesterday option is ok. Each time we cannot change time setting as you said. Let the system take the risk, why should i change the time day by day once i set my region.

You see, from my point of view, the relative datestamp negates the whole issue with changing timezones. The date will be different across timezones maybe, but do you change the clock on your laptop every time you go away for a day? I know I havent done.

Originally Posted by sam.usability

There are people who use 08:40 AM for morning and 08:40 for Evening.
Hope! you know the meaning of AM and PM. If not please see this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Meridiem

Sorry, but people who use 08:40 for the evening are just plain wrong. Like i said, the rule is double-digit hours (when its 08, for example) and a separating colon ( : ) for 24 hour time, and single digit hours, a period separator and AM/PM marker (so that would be 8.40 AM) for 12 hour times. And no... Thankyou, I really don't need to look up ante meeridiem on Wikipedia.

Originally Posted by sam.usability

After All we are not going to loose anything by giving clear information to the end user. All Usability Gurus says that "never make the user to think". So David take little more time before you comment and assess. And would appreciate if you could not use unparliamentary words.

Actually, usability gurus say "never make the user think" they don't put the word "to" in there... That's bad grammar, which is a barrier to understanding, which usability people hate.

The thing that really galls me here is that you have come in here nitpicking for no real reason. You've made this thread for a bunch of significantly less-than-important problems that nobody cares about, looking to make yourself look good or something. The truth of the matter is that for the audience here, the forum model is such a recognised pattern of use and information presentation, that really none of the issues here will matter to the every day user of this site. Like I said before, look at your audience before you criticise. Only make a comment if its actually going to be valid. I don't come here and criticise anyone generally unless i think it is criticism that will be of genuine benefit. None of the points you have made would benefit this community in any way.

Now you've made me waste 15 minutes of my day already, so now I'm going to carry on working.

David

[Lotricthus]

If there was a severe usability deficit, then there wouldn't be this much activity on the site.

[sam.usability]

David, Thanks for your time and comments.

I encountered these type of issues in few projects.
At present we are following a new methodology to standardize all project by giving important to each and every part of the UI. Even though it's a small or silly things, and we give the necessary important to each items.

As you said, most of the users here are techi people, we may not need to bother about much. But there may be few, who get confuse. It may be useful for them.

Friends, and I don't a have any intension of getting good name by commenting other talent. And me too not benefited out of saying all these. And I am not saying this is bad or not at all user friendly.

It was just an observation from my side to make the UI little more clear, with out any confusion. Pls take it in right sence.

Cheers!

[mocremilo]

At present we are following a new methodology to standardize all project by giving important to each and every part of the UI.

Was this thread meant as a "subtle" advertisement for your UI Usability company?

It was just an observation from my side to make the UI little more clear, with out any confusion.

I can hardly make any kind of sense out what you've written here. How can you make any UI clear?

[Tom_E]

Mr Usability – you have only been a member of this site for two weeks and you are already slagging it off?

I take it you have built many better sites than this one?

[datahound]

I would like to complain about the so called 'Quick Links',
they are no quicker than the others,
this is clearly misleading and a contravention of my human rights.

[pgo]

Oh, the humanity!