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hawken · 07-05-2007, 12:36

http://digg.com/tech_news/Sony_s_eye...eator_comments

oh dear.

flipstewart · 07-05-2007, 23:26

At least Sony's taking the semi professional route unlike a lot of other companies. I still don't understand why YouTube still exists... Google bought them and needs to quickly destroy their shitty setup and integrate it into what they already had. Maybe Sony will do something right and allows users to upload higher quality videos... I mean, someone has to compete with Google, right? Microsoft is quickly proving that they can't, so why not Sony?

But yeah, you're right, they are doing it wrong.

hawken · 08-05-2007, 01:35

their whole pitch is that you can upload HD quality videos, and then DL them to your "TV". Instant flaw being that in order to get them to your TV, you need to perform some kind of magic, undocumented on the site, undocumented full stop.

Sony's focus is to combat microsofts silverlight and google. They are too late in the game and have completely ignored the PS3, which is the perfect platform for IPTV. If only they made some kind of Joost clone, for PS3, maybe on entirely the same model, they might be heading in a profitable direction.

As far as I can make out, there are 100's of web video services but only youtube works on the PS3, because it's flash 7 not flash 9.

youtube gets about 300,000 uploads per day... sony have promised to review each and every video before it goes live. How many humans do you need even if their site becomes 10% as popular as youtube?!

flipstewart · 08-05-2007, 05:45

I think a wet noodle could compete against silverlight and win, but they don't stand a chance against Google.

And what about the PSP? I haven't tried it myself, but can you stream video from many sites on it?

bender · 08-05-2007, 14:42

Microsoft won't have to worry about youtube.
Youtube will most likely crumble under the lawuits that they now get daily. It will shut down temporarily and come back years later as a (more)crippled piece of crap. Napster 2.0, mark my words.
What is it, 3 new lawsuits in the past few days?

sleepingfish · 09-05-2007, 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by bender

Microsoft won't have to worry about youtube.
Youtube will most likely crumble under the lawuits that they now get daily. It will shut down temporarily and come back years later as a (more)crippled piece of crap. Napster 2.0, mark my words.
What is it, 3 new lawsuits in the past few days?

Yeah, I mean Napster started throwing about free MP3 sharing, but as soon as the lawsuits turned up all that stopped and now the conept of downloading free music is just a memory. And the other services that emerged offering legal MP3's like iTunes are clearly struggling, oh well, it was nice while it lasted. On top of all that YouTube are backed by some doomed little internet startup like Google, the end is nigh I tell thee.

hawken · 09-05-2007, 06:35

bender · 09-05-2007, 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepingfish

Yeah, I mean Napster started throwing about free MP3 sharing, but as soon as the lawsuits turned up all that stopped and now the conept of downloading free music is just a memory. And the other services that emerged offering legal MP3's like iTunes are clearly struggling, oh well, it was nice while it lasted. On top of all that YouTube are backed by some doomed little internet startup like Google, the end is nigh I tell thee.

Well in fact it did stop and the investment bank that stepped in at the wrong moment is to today still paying 100's of millions in legal settlements (latest 100 million settlement a few months back).
And napster was small fry comparing to the 100's of thousands of videos added to youtube every day. If one of the lawsuits against google goes through everyone will jump aboard and it will be hell. Even google can't just throw that kind of money around.

sleepingfish · 11-05-2007, 07:25

Maybe, and other companies are pursuing the legal/commercial route with apparent success:

BBC NEWS | Business | Joost reveals five new investors

However I just don't believe that Google are so naive (as perhaps the Napster investment bankers were) about the situation. Sharing video files is now a very accessible activity and I don't think its popularity will dwindle. With Google Video and YouTube, Google seem to be in the best situation to dominate the market, and they don't have a habit of letting things slide.

djeglin · 11-05-2007, 08:43

The "getting it on your TV" bit, is designed to link up with Sony's latest line of premiere TVs, which have the ability to connect to Sony's online services built-in. I think it is likely that there will be a firmware upgrade for the PS3 at some point to enable access on there... But the PSP I have my doubts about.

Joost seems to be doing pretty well with its funding, and has got some good content on the way, which should help it along the road. I wouldnt be surprised if at some point they changed their business model to include subscription based premium content.

flipstewart · 11-05-2007, 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepingfish

Yeah, I mean Napster started throwing about free MP3 sharing, but as soon as the lawsuits turned up all that stopped and now the conept of downloading free music is just a memory. And the other services that emerged offering legal MP3's like iTunes are clearly struggling, oh well, it was nice while it lasted. On top of all that YouTube are backed by some doomed little internet startup like Google, the end is nigh I tell thee.

Downloading free music is just a memory? Sh... don't tell anyone about the external terabyte on my desk that says otherwise.

sleepingfish · 14-05-2007, 04:23

Sh...

iFixPhoto · 31-07-2007, 22:28

wow terrible clone!

iWonder · 01-08-2007, 18:11

eyeVio ??

I thought Sony already had Crackle - Stream On :/

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hawken Cornish Pasty Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 2,397	their whole pitch is that you can upload HD quality videos, and then DL them to your "TV". Instant flaw being that in order to get them to your TV, you need to perform some kind of magic, undocumented on the site, undocumented full stop. Sony's focus is to combat microsofts silverlight and google. They are too late in the game and have completely ignored the PS3, which is the perfect platform for IPTV. If only they made some kind of Joost clone, for PS3, maybe on entirely the same model, they might be heading in a profitable direction. As far as I can make out, there are 100's of web video services but only youtube works on the PS3, because it's flash 7 not flash 9. youtube gets about 300,000 uploads per day... sony have promised to review each and every video before it goes live. How many humans do you need even if their site becomes 10% as popular as youtube?! __________________ ere, wosson?

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djeglin goober :-) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 521	The "getting it on your TV" bit, is designed to link up with Sony's latest line of premiere TVs, which have the ability to connect to Sony's online services built-in. I think it is likely that there will be a firmware upgrade for the PS3 at some point to enable access on there... But the PSP I have my doubts about. Joost seems to be doing pretty well with its funding, and has got some good content on the way, which should help it along the road. I wouldnt be surprised if at some point they changed their business model to include subscription based premium content. __________________ My signature sucks.

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07-05-2007, 23:26	#2 (permalink)
flipstewart Am I doing it right? Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 145	At least Sony's taking the semi professional route unlike a lot of other companies. I still don't understand why YouTube still exists... Google bought them and needs to quickly destroy their shitty setup and integrate it into what they already had. Maybe Sony will do something right and allows users to upload higher quality videos... I mean, someone has to compete with Google, right? Microsoft is quickly proving that they can't, so why not Sony? But yeah, you're right, they are doing it wrong.

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flipstewart Am I doing it right? Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 145	I think a wet noodle could compete against silverlight and win, but they don't stand a chance against Google. And what about the PSP? I haven't tried it myself, but can you stream video from many sites on it?

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bender I'd hit it Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Helsinki Posts: 369	Microsoft won't have to worry about youtube. Youtube will most likely crumble under the lawuits that they now get daily. It will shut down temporarily and come back years later as a (more)crippled piece of crap. Napster 2.0, mark my words. What is it, 3 new lawsuits in the past few days?

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sleepingfish css is for divs Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Norwich Posts: 4,527	Maybe, and other companies are pursuing the legal/commercial route with apparent success: BBC NEWS \| Business \| Joost reveals five new investors However I just don't believe that Google are so naive (as perhaps the Napster investment bankers were) about the situation. Sharing video files is now a very accessible activity and I don't think its popularity will dwindle. With Google Video and YouTube, Google seem to be in the best situation to dominate the market, and they don't have a habit of letting things slide.

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