[Luke Redpath]

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/orei...is-web-20.html

Interesting article. More discussion here:

http://37signals.com/svn/archives2/t...ent_web_20.php

Web 2.0? Marketing buzzword or more than that?

[pgo]

I think it's a buzzword.

But at the same time, there's the notion of the nature of the web changing significantly - especially when you look at the list that you find on O'Reilly. It definitely signals a change in the way online applications are built and presented (AJAX comes to mind), but I don't think you can call it "Web 2.0" - because how do you define where a new version of something like the web starts and ends? You can't - because the web evolves, like a living thing and you never read anything in a biology book about "Elephants 1.0beta" (that's wooly mammoths, for you laymen ).

It's just a buzzword, but there's a grain of truth inside.

Interesting quote...and it's from a blog!

My main critique here is: "web 2.0" is now a purely retrospective concept. It has little to do with a "next generation" future, other than in the sense that what has been popular in the recent past will likely continue to be so in the near future.

The Era of Web 2.Over

And from Digital Web Magazine...something of a counterpoint...

Jay Fineberg has an interesting post over on iCite entitled The era of web 2.Over which goes into detail about Tim O'Reilly's recent essay about Web 2.0 and it's future. From Jay's point of view, the Web 2.0 discussion is now a "purely retrospective concept." This is true if you are paying attention to early adopters and trend setters. However, if you look at the vast majority of people using the Web it is not. For example in a recent study Forrester reported that only 6% of consumers currently use RSS. Contrast this with how many consumer sites might be using AJAX, blogs, or implementing folksonomies, well, you get quite a different perspective. For the majority of web users out there, Web 2.0 hasn't even hit yet.

RSS is supposedly a "Web 2.0" concept. I don't use it. I tried once, I wanted to be hip, but I see very little use for it. You know what I do when I want to see if a site's been updated? I open my browser and click the bookmark.

There is one exception to my aversion to RSS. Google.com/ig is absolutely the best application of RSS I've ever seen. I pick a few sites - Wired, Slashdot, NYTimes, BBC - and feed those directly into the page, which is set as my homepage. So, when I open my browser, I take a look at what looks interesting. Nothing? Then I go to another site.

[smallbeer]

Originally Posted by pgo

RSS is supposedly a "Web 2.0" concept. I don't use it. I tried once, I wanted to be hip, but I see very little use for it. You know what I do when I want to see if a site's been updated? I open my browser and click the bookmark.

If you didn't find it useful you obviously didn't need it. It's not about being hip. There's no way I could keep up with all the sites I read without feeds. ATM I'm subscribed to 83. Some are feeds for the beat surrender, letting me know when a contributor adds some content waiting to be edited. Some are my ongoing projects in basecamp. And the majority are blogs/sites I read daily.

Checking my bookmarks regularly would be a nightmare.

[pgo]

Very true. If you're reading that many sites, I suppose it is handy.

I know it has nothing to do with being hip - I was being more sarcastic than anything. As in, "everyone else uses it, I should be, too!"

And, also, I have so much free time at my job, I have the time to check sites manually.

[d*d]

Web 2.0, so there was a Web1.0? - it's a buzzword for now, but it may stick as a historical index when our grandchildren are looking at the birth of the web.

[pgo]

Originally Posted by d*d

Web1.0?

This is Web 1.0

So is this.

[dreamdatum]

Thanks for the info

[finbarr]

Originally Posted by pgo

This is Web 1.0

So is this.

fucking hell, pgo... you do find 'em, dont you? That Peter Pan thing is hilarious

[datahound]

http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/photo_closeups_pp1.htm

That is PGO..

[finbarr]

Originally Posted by datahound

http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/photo_closeups_pp1.htm

That is PGO..

quality

[pgo]

You know I look good in green.

What's with the thread resurrection?

I take back what I said about RSS earlier. I don't use it much, but I do use it some and it's sort of useful.

[sub]

Originally Posted by pgo

What's with the thread resurrection?

I noticed that earlier with another thread dug up from 2003.
Something to do with Adwords - we'll never know because 'they' have been spring cleaning again