[pgo]

Quick question. Let's say your client wants a particular font in their project, or a particular stock photo, but the item they want costs money. Obviously, you'd bill the client for the cost, but would you keep the font on your machine for future projects, or simply give the ttf files (or whatever) to the client for future projects?

I hate to spend $100 on a goddam bunch of letters, so it'd be nice to get clients to buy fonts for you to use in their projects.

Goddam licensing gives me a headache.

[d*d]

depends on the licensing agreement with the supplier, wether it's rights managed or royalty free, if it's royaty free since your buying it you can use it in as many peices of work as you choose, if it's rights managed it'll be a one off

[pgo]

What I meant was let's just assume it's royalty free. Once you buy it, it's yours. However, if you have a client buy it because they demand it in their project, do you, the designer, keep the license or the client (since they paid for it).

[cam]

Originally Posted by pgo

I hate to spend $100 on a goddam bunch of letters, so it'd be nice to get clients to buy fonts for you to use in their projects.

Small point, but for the amount of work that goes into creating a professional quality typeface from scratch, $100 is far from an unreasonable asking price. As far as reuse goes, it all depends on the particular license agreement as d*d said - this tends to be more with stock images than fonts (which are usually restricted per computer or user rather than usage).

Originally Posted by pgo

What I meant was let's just assume it's royalty free. Once you buy it, it's yours. However, if you have a client buy it because they demand it in their project, do you, the designer, keep the license or the client (since they paid for it).

I see what you're saying. It's down to what you believe to be the right thing to do. Personally, I think the client would hold the license but i'd keep a copy of the download anyway.

[pgo]

Yeah, I understand that type design is a time-consuming process and that the prices are truly reasonable.

I'm just stingy.

See my question above - I buy a font. 1 computer license. The client pays for it, since they required that specific font. Do I (the designer) go ahead and keep the license for use in other projects with other clients, or do I just give it to the client?

Like I said, it'd be nice to offset the costs of buying fonts to someone else.

But, again, I'm just being stingy.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by cam

I see what you're saying. It's down to what you believe to be the right thing to do. Personally, I think the client would hold the license but i'd keep a copy of the download anyway.

Thanks. I guess there's no real harm in that. This is why licensing irks me sometimes.

[weldo]

Yeah - charge them for it (they want it so bad) - and give it to them (as they've paid for it) - but keep it on your machine too (by accident.... coughs...)

Seems to me - Everyone's a winner !!!

and if your conscience is bothering you - thinking of the poor soul that sat designing it being in any way 'out of pocket' then you have the power to restore balance to the universe by deleting your copy.

[oli]

If you've charged extra for it, you have to give it to them. I'd keep a backup on your machine though, you know what clients are like. Then if you have to use it for a future client, charge them aswell and pay the font designer again, its only fair.

[Mik]

buy the font for yourself / your company and then just happen to suggest it to them and explain how it is suitable for their company.

Just budget it into the job cost.


keep the typeface.

[pgo]

All good advice. Heeded accordingly.

[Narate]

what if the typeface is already on your machine, and you use it for a client. Will they need to purchase a copy for future work.

In a design I sent as a logo I outlined it, but say if they want it for future publications.

[d*d]

Originally Posted by Mr Mik

buy the font for yourself / your company and then just happen to suggest it to them and explain how it is suitable for their company.

Just budget it into the job cost.


keep the typeface.

Exactly, if you bought a suite of fonts yourself, you would use them for all your clients and cover your cost by charging them accordingly. It's the same thing

[aaron]

Originally Posted by pgo

I hate to spend $100 on a goddam bunch of letters...

haha, maybe you're in the wrong profession

[pgo]

Originally Posted by aaron

haha, maybe you're in the wrong profession

Originally Posted by pgo

I understand that type design is a time-consuming process and that the prices are truly reasonable.

I'm just stingy.

And I'm not really "in the profession" just yet. A lot of people don't trust you when all you've got is a BFA in Painting & Drawing and a few sites under the belt.

This is partly why I'm stuck in an $8/hour (£4.39) IT night-shift job with which I can try to pay off my medical bills and daydream about being able to afford to move from my parents' house or being able to look for a new job that pays a livable wage without having to worry about the (somewhat remote) possibility of major surgery that will not be paid for by any new insurance policy if I were to leave my current job.

So, I'm stingy for a reason. Forgive me for not wanting to pay $100+ for some nice looking letters. Looks like it's Verdana, Georgia, and Trebuchet MS for a while.

[top_buzz]

fonts are always a rip off

[oli]

you ever tried designing one ?

[adras]

Originally Posted by cam

Small point, but for the amount of work that goes into creating a professional quality typeface from scratch, $100 is far from an unreasonable asking price.

Dont forget that they will sell more than one copy of it in the long run, so $100 makes everyone a winner.

[aaron]

Just bill the client. Everyone's a winner.