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Herr Kurm · 17-02-2007, 01:50

Ive got a problem here and I want my text to be typographically 100% correct -the em dashes and en dashes and ellipsis-es etc. Ive ran into a problem - there is a type of organization that is somehow marked in a database or whatever as 501(c)(3), this is as how the text my client sent me had them formatted. I know that the (c) should be a © but I have no fucking idea how the (3) should look like. Is there a specific glyph like the © for the (3) or should I draw it myself?

skyrocket · 17-02-2007, 06:02

if you mean the cubed symbol ³ it's: & sup3; or & 179; (just close the gap after the ampersands)

Herr Kurm · 17-02-2007, 06:05

If Id know how it would be typographically correct Id use the correct symbol. Im afraid that superscript (thank god for opentype and true superscript) isnt the right way for this. If anyone has any experience with this help would be much appreciated.

steveb · 18-02-2007, 06:41

Tere Soomest! This is what I do to get unusual symbols and orthography into ordinary sucky html documents. For example, let’s say I want to tell you that in two week’s time, I shall be visiting Prague and want to see the funicular railway in Petřín. I shall be glad to go somewhere a bit warmer than south Finland where I live because the temperatures should be at least 10°C warmer.

I use a PC so I have to insert special symbols this way. I go to the Character Map by going to START/All Programs/Accessories/System Tools/Character Map where I make a Desktop shortcut with a right click. In the Character Map, I select the font I’m using up at the top and scroll down until I find the character I want. Double click on it and it gets copied to the little character row, from where I can copy/paste it into my document - in this case, into this window. I managed to find lower case Ř and Í, and the degree symbol.

Just for the fun of it, I’ve also replaced the default apostrophes here with the correct single left inverted commas. A ’ looks better than a ' even on a blog site.

Herr Kurm · 18-02-2007, 08:01

I know exactly how to get those special characters, I just dont know how it should look like.

ey, steveb, how about some vodka?

steveb · 18-02-2007, 12:58

Now I understand the problem! (I'm slow but I get there in the end). I think the only answer is to contact the client and ask what the (3) is supposed to mean. And ask what the database thing is, too!
As for vodka, I very rarely drink spirits - but 0,5l Saku õlu would go down very well right now!

Herr Kurm · 18-02-2007, 14:23

solved it, they both have to be like (c)(3), no copyright sign needed.

steveb Vana Tallinn sucks bigtime these days, only ÜX vodka and beers are consumable now

Have you tried A Le Coq Premium ?

steveb · 19-02-2007, 15:52

Gawd, I can't afford that kind of stuff. A six-pack of Lapin Kulta is about the best I ever get!
Vana Tallinn liqueur is a very special acquired taste. I've tasted it but shan't make it a habit.
I remember coming across to Tallinn in 1988 to visit a video production company (Priit Pärn worked there) with some other workmates, and everyone was very happy because they were allowed to buy in some alcohol for the foreign guests. That was during Gorbachev's prohibition, of course. Oh, the vodka flowed very freely that evening!

17-02-2007, 01:50	#1 (permalink)
Herr Kurm bloody peasant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 2,697	specific typographic glyph Ive got a problem here and I want my text to be typographically 100% correct -the em dashes and en dashes and ellipsis-es etc. Ive ran into a problem - there is a type of organization that is somehow marked in a database or whatever as 501(c)(3), this is as how the text my client sent me had them formatted. I know that the (c) should be a © but I have no fucking idea how the (3) should look like. Is there a specific glyph like the © for the (3) or should I draw it myself?

18-02-2007, 06:41	#4 (permalink)
steveb 389 ppm and rising Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Järvenpää, Finland Posts: 5,475	Tere Soomest! This is what I do to get unusual symbols and orthography into ordinary sucky html documents. For example, let’s say I want to tell you that in two week’s time, I shall be visiting Prague and want to see the funicular railway in Petřín. I shall be glad to go somewhere a bit warmer than south Finland where I live because the temperatures should be at least 10°C warmer. I use a PC so I have to insert special symbols this way. I go to the Character Map by going to START/All Programs/Accessories/System Tools/Character Map where I make a Desktop shortcut with a right click. In the Character Map, I select the font I’m using up at the top and scroll down until I find the character I want. Double click on it and it gets copied to the little character row, from where I can copy/paste it into my document - in this case, into this window. I managed to find lower case Ř and Í, and the degree symbol. Just for the fun of it, I’ve also replaced the default apostrophes here with the correct single left inverted commas. A ’ looks better than a ' even on a blog site. Last edited by steveb : 18-02-2007 at 06:56.

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17-02-2007, 06:02	#2 (permalink)
skyrocket SkyRocket Design Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chichester Posts: 536	if you mean the cubed symbol ³ it's: & sup3; or & 179; (just close the gap after the ampersands)

17-02-2007, 06:05	#3 (permalink)
Herr Kurm bloody peasant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 2,697	If Id know how it would be typographically correct Id use the correct symbol. Im afraid that superscript (thank god for opentype and true superscript) isnt the right way for this. If anyone has any experience with this help would be much appreciated.

18-02-2007, 08:01	#5 (permalink)
Herr Kurm bloody peasant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 2,697	I know exactly how to get those special characters, I just dont know how it should look like. ey, steveb, how about some vodka?

18-02-2007, 12:58	#6 (permalink)
steveb 389 ppm and rising Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Järvenpää, Finland Posts: 5,475	Now I understand the problem! (I'm slow but I get there in the end). I think the only answer is to contact the client and ask what the (3) is supposed to mean. And ask what the database thing is, too! As for vodka, I very rarely drink spirits - but 0,5l Saku õlu would go down very well right now!

18-02-2007, 14:23	#7 (permalink)
Herr Kurm bloody peasant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 2,697	solved it, they both have to be like (c)(3), no copyright sign needed. steveb Vana Tallinn sucks bigtime these days, only ÜX vodka and beers are consumable now Have you tried A Le Coq Premium ?

19-02-2007, 15:52	#8 (permalink)
steveb 389 ppm and rising Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Järvenpää, Finland Posts: 5,475	Gawd, I can't afford that kind of stuff. A six-pack of Lapin Kulta is about the best I ever get! Vana Tallinn liqueur is a very special acquired taste. I've tasted it but shan't make it a habit. I remember coming across to Tallinn in 1988 to visit a video production company (Priit Pärn worked there) with some other workmates, and everyone was very happy because they were allowed to buy in some alcohol for the foreign guests. That was during Gorbachev's prohibition, of course. Oh, the vodka flowed very freely that evening!

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