[Limbo]

What are the advantages apart form the obvious cost difference? I know that the integration with illustrator and Photoshop is great - PDF writer is better and proof printing outputs EPS's perfectly. but what else? What are the drawbacks - is there any (apart from getting to know new software) - have you found that most printers are happy with indesign?

Seems all printers accept/prefer PDF's these days and it's where we are headed, but wanted some informed opinions off you lot.

Thanks.

[Limbo]

Will I be limiting my employability if I become an indesign-er?

[pedge]

We've just moved over to InDesign and its just so much better than Quark - printings a doddle, the built in effects have reduced the amount of time we have to use illustrator and photoshop and I can really say its been the best investment we've made recently.

I don't think it'll cause a problem as so many people are moving over to it - the only people not so keen to move over (in my experience) are some repro houses who have problems with the rip outputting the built-in effects like text dropshadows over images etc. A few want to stick with Quark cos they know how to get around rip problems whereas InDesign would mean re-learning an InDesign for its outputting limitations and work-arounds.

PDFs are certainly more accepted at repro houses but some do still have problems with those effects etc.

On the whole I'd say stick with it - Quarks a dog in comparison!

Just my 2p!

[centro]

Learn both Quark + InDesign. More strings to your bow and all that.

Hey pedge, will you be watching The Floyd on Saturday?

[pedge]

You betcha! Counting the seconds that make up my dull days until they're on; not so much "Wish you were here", more "wish I was there"!

The weather forecasts not so good for them though, so the first song will probably be 'Goodbye Blue Sky' . I think 'Us and Them' and 'Dogs of War' will be the most appropriate songs for this event...

[Limbo]

Originally Posted by centro

Learn both Quark + InDesign. More strings to your bow and all that.

Never really thought of it like that. I'm already fairy handy with Quark - certainly wouldn't hurt to learn Indesign as well

[pedge]

Wont do any harm - I've used Quark since it was Quark 2.12 and have only just changed over (got CS2 on a Photoshop upgrade). At first its a bit daunting but once you've rearranged the key strokes to the sort you've used for Quark it becomes a lot easier. The hi-res previews, printing sep previews, link updating etc are just so useful I've not missed Quark one bit. Seriously.

We output to a Canon CLC 3220 using Quark and it pushes the tick marks off centre so backing up a job is a nightmare as we have to off-centre the reverser page. With InDesign it backs up perfectly first time and processes quicker - that in itself is worth its weight in gold.

[centro]

Originally Posted by pedge

You betcha! Counting the seconds that make up my dull days until they're on; not so much "Wish you were here", more "wish I was there"!

The weather forecasts not so good for them though, so the first song will probably be 'Goodbye Blue Sky' . I think 'Us and Them' and 'Dogs of War' will be the most appropriate songs for this event...

I think they will play 'Breathe' WYWH and 'Comfortably Numb'

any idea what time they are on?

[pedge]

Not sure, but since its 20 years since PF included Roger Waters, whats an hour here or there?

[mister_green]

Where do I watch Pink Floyd? Internet or BBC?

[pedge]

Its on BBC and you will probably be able to get it on the net too. I think its all on between 9am and 3pm iirc.

[centro]

They should play something from Animals!

[pedge]

Or "shine on you crazy diamond" - parts 1-9, that should last about 30 minutes with Animals taking up the rest of the day

[centro]

Then Echoes as an encore!