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Mr Fred · 18-04-2005, 04:14

Oh well.

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invr...acromedia.html

SVG anyone.

Will Flash be continued all will we have to work with shitfuck SVG

Subversive · 18-04-2005, 04:23

Wow... Didn't see that one coming.

You never know, they might actually make Flash for the Mac good.

nakedintruder · 18-04-2005, 04:40

http://www.markme.com/mesh/archives/007504.cfm

Allen · 18-04-2005, 04:59

From Mike Chambers' site:
"We are still committed to Flash as a development platform (probably more than ever now). We are still committed to our server products, such as ColdFusion (7 has been incredibly successful) and Flex."
So, no mention of Dreamweaver or Fireworks yet. I guess we'll see how this pans out come the autumn when they reckon the companies will merge.

sleepingfish · 18-04-2005, 05:00

Crikey.

Brown · 18-04-2005, 05:13

hopefully the macromedia stock will start to make a rise now then.

pgo · 18-04-2005, 05:26

Without knowing too many specifics, I'd have to say this may be a good thing.

I've always preferred Adobe software to Macromedia. Flash was probably the only thing keeping Macromedia afloat - that and broad use of Dreamweaver, but all of Adobe's products are well regarded and in good use - Photoshop and Illustrator are the standard for bitmap and vector graphics and InDesign seems to have been marginalizing Quark. Acrobat is widely used as well - probably more than any other Adobe software. Haven't even touched GoLive yet, though.

Maybe this could bode well for Flash. Where Flash is highly inaccessible (when used to design entire sites) and overly abused by many designers, Adobe could take the initiative in making it better - perhaps working with the W3C to make some sort of hybrid of Flash and SVG - a new open standard - SVG compliant Flash? I like Flash as much as the next guy when it's used purposefully, but so many people use it when they shouldn't.

Who knows. Could be talking out of my ass since my Flash expertise is severely limited and my knowledge of SVG is very superficial.

Time will tell.

Limbo · 18-04-2005, 05:37

more: http://home.businesswire.com/portal/... 5&newsLang=en

roto · 18-04-2005, 09:32

Perhaps they'll work on a developer bundle with the beaver, Flash, Photoshop, etc...

stickmus · 18-04-2005, 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyBudd

Adobe Dreamweaver Creative Suite MX 2004

http://www.andybudd.com/archives/200...edia/index.php

Dusteh · 18-04-2005, 10:03

Monopolies are never good things, less competition means less advances for the end user to play with. Just look at the stagnant mess that Quark became until InDesign eventually came along to worry it after literally years.

Illustrator kills Freehand, Photoshop kills Fireworks, hopefully Dreamweaver kills...er... whatever crappy software Adobe were trying to push.

Full inter-compatibilty between Dreamweaver and PS might be good though... sick to death of accidentally clicking 'edit image' only to be confronted with a reminder that I don't own Fireworks.

pgo · 19-04-2005, 01:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusteh

hopefully Dreamweaver kills...er... whatever crappy software Adobe were trying to push.

That would be GoLive.

Absolutely right on the monopoly issue.

paulanthony · 19-04-2005, 02:11

Rather see that merger than Microsoft and Macromedia...

weldo · 19-04-2005, 03:31

Can't wait to get my hands on new copies of Macromobe Fireshop, AfterFlash and Goleaver

jack · 19-04-2005, 08:51

Always been more of a fan of the adobe interfaces than those of Macromedia, and hopefully now there will be greater compatibility between Illustrator & Flash. Totaly agree with the market monopoly point right enough.

roto · 19-04-2005, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusteh

Full inter-compatibilty between Dreamweaver and PS might be good though... sick to death of accidentally clicking 'edit image' only to be confronted with a reminder that I don't own Fireworks.

That, my friend, would be lovely. But I'm sure you know that you can set up DW to edit PSDs (and others) via right-click > open with Photoshop...

Mr Fred · 22-04-2005, 06:40

http://daringfireball.net/2005/04/adobe_translation

Brown · 22-04-2005, 08:02

excellent.

Quote:

Once Freehand, Fireworks, and GoLive are killed, customers will have the benefit of not having any competing apps to choose from, and we benefit from not having any competitors.

stickmus · 22-04-2005, 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by weldo

Can't wait to get my hands on new copies of Macromobe Fireshop, AfterFlash and Goleaver

Best one I heard was Frustrator

weldo · 22-04-2005, 09:47

Frustrator is indeed a fantastic name for a shit piece of kit !!!

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Allen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1	From Mike Chambers' site: "We are still committed to Flash as a development platform (probably more than ever now). We are still committed to our server products, such as ColdFusion (7 has been incredibly successful) and Flex." So, no mention of Dreamweaver or Fireworks yet. I guess we'll see how this pans out come the autumn when they reckon the companies will merge.

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sleepingfish css is for divs Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Norwich Posts: 4,469	Crikey.

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pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	Without knowing too many specifics, I'd have to say this may be a good thing. I've always preferred Adobe software to Macromedia. Flash was probably the only thing keeping Macromedia afloat - that and broad use of Dreamweaver, but all of Adobe's products are well regarded and in good use - Photoshop and Illustrator are the standard for bitmap and vector graphics and InDesign seems to have been marginalizing Quark. Acrobat is widely used as well - probably more than any other Adobe software. Haven't even touched GoLive yet, though. Maybe this could bode well for Flash. Where Flash is highly inaccessible (when used to design entire sites) and overly abused by many designers, Adobe could take the initiative in making it better - perhaps working with the W3C to make some sort of hybrid of Flash and SVG - a new open standard - SVG compliant Flash? I like Flash as much as the next guy when it's used purposefully, but so many people use it when they shouldn't. Who knows. Could be talking out of my ass since my Flash expertise is severely limited and my knowledge of SVG is very superficial. Time will tell.

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Dusteh Sir digby chicken caesar Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4,827	Monopolies are never good things, less competition means less advances for the end user to play with. Just look at the stagnant mess that Quark became until InDesign eventually came along to worry it after literally years. Illustrator kills Freehand, Photoshop kills Fireworks, hopefully Dreamweaver kills...er... whatever crappy software Adobe were trying to push. Full inter-compatibilty between Dreamweaver and PS might be good though... sick to death of accidentally clicking 'edit image' only to be confronted with a reminder that I don't own Fireworks.

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jack Penis for hire™ Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glasgow Posts: 983	Always been more of a fan of the adobe interfaces than those of Macromedia, and hopefully now there will be greater compatibility between Illustrator & Flash. Totaly agree with the market monopoly point right enough.

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