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gwx · 06-12-2003, 05:34

Who does topstype 'fulltime'?... That is, using topstyle for everything. I find the new interface pretty nice and the tools pretty much improved ( just upgraded to topstyle 3 from 2 ) and think its suitable for 'full-time' coding ( except db coding )...

Who thinks its suitable for alltime coding and which only use it sometimes after a site has been done halfway... and then use it to tweak and do some minor adjustments?

P.S : And is dreamweaver beaver?

smallbeer · 06-12-2003, 05:51

Yep I use it fulltime. It has 'ok' support for php so it suits my needs.

not sure how or why you'd want to use it when a site is half built?

Brown · 06-12-2003, 06:20

i dip in and out depending on what app i think will work quickest (usually the one i know the keyboard shortcut for what i want to do).

dreamweaver :: dreambeaver - just sounds nice

gwx · 06-12-2003, 07:50

Dreamweaver MX 2004 lets u display what CSS stuff you put in real-time. That is, everything is styled and you can see almost immediately the effect. However, if you were in MX, the older version, you'll need to hit the 'preview' button. MX 2004, the prob is, doesn't do a good job displaying CSS as it would appear in a browser real time.

roto · 06-12-2003, 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwx

Dreamweaver MX 2004 lets u display what CSS stuff you put in real-time. That is, everything is styled and you can see almost immediately the effect. However, if you were in MX, the older version, you'll need to hit the 'preview' button. MX 2004, the prob is, doesn't do a good job displaying CSS as it would appear in a browser real time.

Then what's the point? Always always always preview in a browser to be sure...

smallbeer · 06-12-2003, 09:50

Dreamweaver still uses a different rendering engine for it's preview which means css might/will not look as it should.

Topstyle doesn't.

gwx · 06-12-2003, 11:11

Yes; Thats what I'm trying to say! I need the same rendering engine as what my visitor is using ( that is, a browser's rendering engine ). Dreamweaver uses its own rendering engine and there's no option for a 'preview' tab or anything. Thats why its very troublesome to work with css files in 'beaver'.

smallbeer · 06-12-2003, 11:16

so you know the answer then.

Bill Posters · 06-12-2003, 11:55

Even in DW, F12/alt+F12 (preview in browser/secondary browser) takes only a second or two to use.
How much trouble can that be?

gwx · 06-12-2003, 12:35

If you're using relative positioning, you'll easily get fed up with dreamweaver. Dreamweaver doesn't render pages as it should ... at all. Its troublesome to keep on changing positioning values and not knowing how they will turn out until you preview it. Besides, IE and Netscape are both VERY slow browsers.

smallbeer · 06-12-2003, 14:28

I'll say bo...you say selecta.

dorian · 06-12-2003, 14:28

I've had problems with dw F12 preview - but then again.... I eat everything with a spoon.

06-12-2003, 05:34	#1 (permalink)
gwx Dr. Macromedia Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Alpha Centauri Posts: 106	Topstyle 'full-time'? Who does topstype 'fulltime'?... That is, using topstyle for everything. I find the new interface pretty nice and the tools pretty much improved ( just upgraded to topstyle 3 from 2 ) and think its suitable for 'full-time' coding ( except db coding )... Who thinks its suitable for alltime coding and which only use it sometimes after a site has been done halfway... and then use it to tweak and do some minor adjustments? P.S : And is dreamweaver beaver?

06-12-2003, 05:51	#2 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,236	Yep I use it fulltime. It has 'ok' support for php so it suits my needs. not sure how or why you'd want to use it when a site is half built? __________________ That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch.

06-12-2003, 09:50	#6 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,236	Dreamweaver still uses a different rendering engine for it's preview which means css might/will not look as it should. Topstyle doesn't. __________________ That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch.

06-12-2003, 11:16	#8 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,236	so you know the answer then. __________________ That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch.

06-12-2003, 14:28	#11 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,236	I'll say bo...you say selecta. __________________ That's fuckin' ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fuckin' watch.

06-12-2003, 06:20	#3 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,214	i dip in and out depending on what app i think will work quickest (usually the one i know the keyboard shortcut for what i want to do). dreamweaver :: dreambeaver - just sounds nice

06-12-2003, 07:50	#4 (permalink)
gwx Dr. Macromedia Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Alpha Centauri Posts: 106	Dreamweaver MX 2004 lets u display what CSS stuff you put in real-time. That is, everything is styled and you can see almost immediately the effect. However, if you were in MX, the older version, you'll need to hit the 'preview' button. MX 2004, the prob is, doesn't do a good job displaying CSS as it would appear in a browser real time.

06-12-2003, 11:11	#7 (permalink)
gwx Dr. Macromedia Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Alpha Centauri Posts: 106	Yes; Thats what I'm trying to say! I need the same rendering engine as what my visitor is using ( that is, a browser's rendering engine ). Dreamweaver uses its own rendering engine and there's no option for a 'preview' tab or anything. Thats why its very troublesome to work with css files in 'beaver'.

06-12-2003, 11:55	#9 (permalink)
Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,886	Even in DW, F12/alt+F12 (preview in browser/secondary browser) takes only a second or two to use. How much trouble can that be?

06-12-2003, 12:35	#10 (permalink)
gwx Dr. Macromedia Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Alpha Centauri Posts: 106	If you're using relative positioning, you'll easily get fed up with dreamweaver. Dreamweaver doesn't render pages as it should ... at all. Its troublesome to keep on changing positioning values and not knowing how they will turn out until you preview it. Besides, IE and Netscape are both VERY slow browsers.

06-12-2003, 14:28	#12 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,233	I've had problems with dw F12 preview - but then again.... I eat everything with a spoon. __________________ ...

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