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fishy · 15-07-2006, 11:22

I hope Mr Mik doesn't mind if I add this here.

I guess there aren't very many Linux designers. Maybe that's why this thread won't have anything in it. Linux is not really a desktop platform, but it certainly can be used as one (Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake here). It's perfectly suited for programming and connecting to the net, as well as providing a server to test everything on. So, without further ado, I present: the (kind of small) list of helpful Linux software.

It doesn't have to be restricted to designing software, just so you know that.

I'll start it off with: gaim.sourceforge.net

Happy posting. Hope there are more Linux designers out there. I'm gettin' kinda lonely.

pgo · 15-07-2006, 11:58

I'd like to be using Linux (I've tried Ubuntu and liked it - easy install, and I have no real interest in learning the depths of Linux). If only Adobe's software came in Linux varieties.

NevF · 15-07-2006, 12:53

i have a more-or-less good computer with the crap Microsoft Windows 98 on it, I might try and turn that into something wonderful...I hope for Linux, will you please tell me how good is Ubuntu

pgo · 15-07-2006, 15:07

It's good. Pretty easy to get up and running and the CD comes with most of the everyday software you'll need - OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, etc.

cam · 16-07-2006, 04:54

Apparently the Linux NTFS project have released a working beta of a driver that brings full NTFS support to Linux/BSD. Impressive if it actually works;

Full details here - http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/f...&forum_id=2697

pgo · 18-07-2006, 11:41

Yeah, saw that over at Slashdot, I believe.

Wasn't it true before that Linux could read from NTFS, but not write?

lyndon · 30-07-2006, 03:40

K9Copy is great for backing up DVD's

And for some reason I can make free phone calls across europe and the us (i think) using some software called wengo....

steharg · 20-12-2006, 06:28

linux is most definately a desktop platform... but its not really a desktop platform for designers due to the lack of good quality applications available.

ive been using ubuntu on and off for about 12 months now (going back into windows for illustrator, photoshop etc). I installed ubuntu 6.10 a few weeks ago and im extrmemly impressed, (ive not booted back in to windows yet) runs quicker than xp, boots quicker and fully customizable to whatever you want to do.

a few design apps:

inkscape http://www.inkscape.org/
xara xtreme http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
the gimp http://www.gimpshop.net/
scribus http://www.scribus.net/

ive not used any of the above yet for a job as i am more efficient in photoshop and illustrator, ill be giving them a proper run out soon though.

freelancr · 20-12-2006, 18:01

Not an app I am recommending, but a distro!

Arch Linux

kakarot · 23-01-2007, 12:47

Hi all,not been member here very long ( minutes really lol ) but thought i'd like to offer my view on linux apps etc....

I have a development pc ( i'm using it to make this post ) which runs Fedora Core 6,i use it to test out all my designs and using a program called xampp ( i'm sure most of you have heard of it ) to run apache,php,mysql etc...i use it as a test server before i go live with any site.I know there is no photoshop etc... on linux but there are alot of nice free tools out there that are very useful .Here are a few i have used

Bluefish - An html editor,but no reason not to be used for other languages

Screem - Another html editor,little different from Bluefish but well worth a try

Gimp - mentioned before

Xampp - Collection of tools to run your own server,includes apache,php 4&5,mysql and perl.Also comes with phpmyadmin and other goodies

K3b - A good cd/dvd app for burning your back-ups

Another plus i found was that using linux as my desktop involved me learning Bash ( linux command line ) which came in very handy when using ssh/telnet to work with a nix based server.Hope there are lots more Linux designers out there can share there views :-)

O and before i forget,one of the good bits about linux is all the different distro's out there.Try as many as you can until you find the one you like the best.a few i can think off are :- Linspire,fedora,suse,gentoo,slackware,knoppix,Dam Small Linux (DSL) and there are loads more..........go forth and explore lol

Brunno · 23-01-2007, 15:11

Not an app I am recommending, but a distro!

Cborrow · 29-01-2007, 07:20

Great looking image editor style app for Linux.

Pixel - http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=12

stickmus · 29-01-2007, 09:06

Yes, if by great looking you mean photoshop clone

gk · 19-02-2007, 14:15

Not exactly a linux app. But I think I should be listed here.
good for those who plan to dual boot.
read EXT2/3 file systems under windows
http://www.fs-driver.org/

oxalá · 25-05-2007, 09:22

i am a big Ubuntu fan
but I am not so in love with the GIMP, for some reason.
Adobe, take Dell's cue and do the right thing, plz.

copyleft · 29-05-2007, 10:52

Aptana is a great app as well

copyleft · 29-05-2007, 10:57

Also for the flash developers you could always check out osflash dot com

proc355 · 08-06-2007, 00:55

OS: Debian - the big boy's Ubuntu...

seriously though, I've had several U/Ku/Xubuntu installations and they've all sucked with their buggy installs and "oh no you cant have root" crap - straight debian beats them hands down; get the minimal install and avoid the bloat of other "easy to use" distros.

App: Vim, the rewards of the learning curve are well worth it.

Still use win for graphics et al though - the linux apps just don't cut it for me (probably due to my Adobe/Macromedia brainwashing)

steharg: wasn't aware of xara fro 'nix, cheers for the tip.

Snowshiro · 08-06-2007, 01:44

I've been using *nix variants for 20 years or so, and they're still a long way from being a serious contender in the desktop design market, especially since the demise of SGI (Silicon Graphics).

Although I admire the OS movement, the GIMP, is just *horrible* to use as a serious design tool -on any platform. The only time I resort to it, is if I'm somewhere unfamiliar, where I have to make a simple change to some artwork (e.g. cropping an image) and it's the only available choice at the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by proc355

seriously though, I've had several U/Ku/Xubuntu installations and they've all sucked with their buggy installs and "oh no you cant have root" crap -

Forcing people to use sudo is actually a smart design choice, especially if they're aiming at the mass market. I agree about vi / vim though.

proc355 · 10-06-2007, 15:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowshiro

Forcing people to use sudo is actually a smart design choice, especially if they're aiming at the mass market.

I actually totally agree with that

- still find them buggy as hell tho :P

IIRC you can do "sudo su -" though, which pretty much negates any security benefit... don't quote me on that though.

15-07-2006, 11:22	#1 (permalink)
fishy in de ocean Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Free Country, USA Posts: 7	Linux Software / Apps I hope Mr Mik doesn't mind if I add this here. I guess there aren't very many Linux designers. Maybe that's why this thread won't have anything in it. Linux is not really a desktop platform, but it certainly can be used as one (Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake here). It's perfectly suited for programming and connecting to the net, as well as providing a server to test everything on. So, without further ado, I present: the (kind of small) list of helpful Linux software. It doesn't have to be restricted to designing software, just so you know that. I'll start it off with: gaim.sourceforge.net Happy posting. Hope there are more Linux designers out there. I'm gettin' kinda lonely.

16-07-2006, 04:54	#5 (permalink)
cam vague™ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Glasgow Posts: 4,994	Apparently the Linux NTFS project have released a working beta of a driver that brings full NTFS support to Linux/BSD. Impressive if it actually works; Full details here - http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/f...&forum_id=2697 __________________ Random goodness at The Blog™

23-01-2007, 12:47	#10 (permalink)
kakarot Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2	Linux designer Hi all,not been member here very long ( minutes really lol ) but thought i'd like to offer my view on linux apps etc.... I have a development pc ( i'm using it to make this post ) which runs Fedora Core 6,i use it to test out all my designs and using a program called xampp ( i'm sure most of you have heard of it ) to run apache,php,mysql etc...i use it as a test server before i go live with any site.I know there is no photoshop etc... on linux but there are alot of nice free tools out there that are very useful .Here are a few i have used Bluefish - An html editor,but no reason not to be used for other languages Screem - Another html editor,little different from Bluefish but well worth a try Gimp - mentioned before Xampp - Collection of tools to run your own server,includes apache,php 4&5,mysql and perl.Also comes with phpmyadmin and other goodies K3b - A good cd/dvd app for burning your back-ups Another plus i found was that using linux as my desktop involved me learning Bash ( linux command line ) which came in very handy when using ssh/telnet to work with a nix based server.Hope there are lots more Linux designers out there can share there views :-) O and before i forget,one of the good bits about linux is all the different distro's out there.Try as many as you can until you find the one you like the best.a few i can think off are :- Linspire,fedora,suse,gentoo,slackware,knoppix,Dam Small Linux (DSL) and there are loads more..........go forth and explore lol

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15-07-2006, 11:58	#2 (permalink)
pgo Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NYC Posts: 11,869	I'd like to be using Linux (I've tried Ubuntu and liked it - easy install, and I have no real interest in learning the depths of Linux). If only Adobe's software came in Linux varieties.

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NevF Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 89	i have a more-or-less good computer with the crap Microsoft Windows 98 on it, I might try and turn that into something wonderful...I hope for Linux, will you please tell me how good is Ubuntu

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pgo Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NYC Posts: 11,869	It's good. Pretty easy to get up and running and the CD comes with most of the everyday software you'll need - OpenOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird, etc.

18-07-2006, 11:41	#6 (permalink)
pgo Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NYC Posts: 11,869	Yeah, saw that over at Slashdot, I believe. Wasn't it true before that Linux could read from NTFS, but not write?

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lyndon Venti Macchiato Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 1,153	K9Copy is great for backing up DVD's And for some reason I can make free phone calls across europe and the us (i think) using some software called wengo....

20-12-2006, 06:28	#8 (permalink)
steharg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 172	linux is most definately a desktop platform... but its not really a desktop platform for designers due to the lack of good quality applications available. ive been using ubuntu on and off for about 12 months now (going back into windows for illustrator, photoshop etc). I installed ubuntu 6.10 a few weeks ago and im extrmemly impressed, (ive not booted back in to windows yet) runs quicker than xp, boots quicker and fully customizable to whatever you want to do. a few design apps: inkscape http://www.inkscape.org/ xara xtreme http://www.xaraxtreme.org/ the gimp http://www.gimpshop.net/ scribus http://www.scribus.net/ ive not used any of the above yet for a job as i am more efficient in photoshop and illustrator, ill be giving them a proper run out soon though.

20-12-2006, 18:01	#9 (permalink)
freelancr Web Developer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, UK Posts: 1,848	Not an app I am recommending, but a distro! Arch Linux

23-01-2007, 15:11	#11 (permalink)
Brunno Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 16	Not an app I am recommending, but a distro!

29-01-2007, 07:20	#12 (permalink)
Cborrow I like code. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 175	Great looking image editor style app for Linux. Pixel - http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=12

19-02-2007, 14:15	#14 (permalink)
gk geek Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: *.everywhere Posts: 204	Not exactly a linux app. But I think I should be listed here. good for those who plan to dual boot. read EXT2/3 file systems under windows http://www.fs-driver.org/

25-05-2007, 09:22	#15 (permalink)
oxalá UI fan Join Date: May 2007 Location: alexandria, virginia USA Posts: 4	i am a big Ubuntu fan but I am not so in love with the GIMP, for some reason. Adobe, take Dell's cue and do the right thing, plz.

29-05-2007, 10:52	#16 (permalink)
copyleft Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 16	Aptana is a great app as well

29-05-2007, 10:57	#17 (permalink)
copyleft Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 16	Also for the flash developers you could always check out osflash dot com

08-06-2007, 00:55	#18 (permalink)
proc355 Trailer Trash™ Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 851	OS: Debian - the big boy's Ubuntu... seriously though, I've had several U/Ku/Xubuntu installations and they've all sucked with their buggy installs and "oh no you cant have root" crap - straight debian beats them hands down; get the minimal install and avoid the bloat of other "easy to use" distros. App: Vim, the rewards of the learning curve are well worth it. Still use win for graphics et al though - the linux apps just don't cut it for me (probably due to my Adobe/Macromedia brainwashing) steharg: wasn't aware of xara fro 'nix, cheers for the tip.

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