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Old 10-06-2007, 18:29   #21 (permalink)
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I´ve had ubuntu as a dual-boot option on my win-xp pc for a while now and only used it twice.

My work flow is completely based on that win system I molded into shape over the past few years. Going cold turkey on ubuntu just doesn´t work, let alone that it could actually be a boost to my productivity.
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Old 10-06-2007, 18:41   #22 (permalink)
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The use of sudo isn't much good for people wanting to really learn about Linux, but it is good that it forces people not to login to a root account.
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Old 10-06-2007, 20:30   #23 (permalink)
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The use of sudo isn't much good for people wanting to really learn about Linux, but it is good that it forces people not to login to a root account.

I'm completely baffled about what your justification is for your argument. In what ways does it stop you "really" learning about Linux?
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:50   #24 (permalink)
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I'm completely baffled about what your justification is for your argument. In what ways does it stop you "really" learning about Linux?

Well sudo isn't in every Linux distro, it is something in Debian based distros. So if you were asked to setup or maintain a remote RHEL webserver using SSH, a newbie that has been just been using the Ubuntu Desktop GUI wouldn't have the first clue how to do this.

Whereas if you want to have a broader understanding of linux, you can try various distros, and set them up to perform various tasks, and try to do things in the shell instead of the GUI.

Not saying sudo is a bad thing, afterall I use Kubuntu.
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Old 17-06-2007, 23:20   #25 (permalink)
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a newbie that has been just been using the Ubuntu Desktop GUI wouldn't have the first clue how to do this.
wouldn't a newbie, regardless, have no idea how to do this? i see how sudo might retard learning progress for the person dabbling in linux, but I don't think that person would ever have put themselves in a position to have done anything serious. of course, I say this as someone who has only experienced Debian-based distros, so I'm probably the person you're describing.

EDIT: actually, never mind. the truth of your statement still stands -- sudo really isn't much use for people who really set out to understand linux.
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Old 24-07-2007, 10:05   #26 (permalink)
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http://getswiftfox.com/ (seems to be experiencing some downtime atm)

to be quite honest that's the only custom software I use frequently, Ubuntu has it all
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Old 29-01-2008, 12:12   #27 (permalink)
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I´ve had ubuntu as a dual-boot option on my win-xp pc for a while now and only used it twice.

My work flow is completely based on that win system I molded into shape over the past few years. Going cold turkey on ubuntu just doesn´t work, let alone that it could actually be a boost to my productivity.
I switched to Ubuntu in September and haven't really looked back. I dual-boot with XP too, but only for gaming. I've gotten a pretty good workflow down in Ubuntu. Photoshop CS2 finally works in Wine, so I can get back to designing.
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Old 05-02-2008, 05:48   #28 (permalink)
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