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joeyx2000 · 03-06-2005, 04:10

Hello try to look at my personal site...need some comments if any..Thanks!

www.jaceycraft.effson.com

emil · 03-06-2005, 04:17

It looks nice, simple and clean, I am not
sure you needed flash for that kind of thing,
though.

What I don't like is the popup window.
It would work fine without it IMHO

I have FF configured to open clicked links
in a new tab in the same window, so I could
not return to your page because I had no tabs...

Other than that simple, easy to navigate, nice

joeyx2000 · 03-06-2005, 04:25

thanks for the comment...i use flash to have it a little animated...thanks again emil...

d*d · 03-06-2005, 04:31

Cybergraphy?? nice site - will meet a bit of resistance from people here because it's flash but i think it's fine - work seems to take a while to load for what it is though

Joewebber · 03-06-2005, 04:52

While I'm usually against the use of Flash, I think it works well here.
Like the colours and simplicity of the layout. Nice work

smallbeer · 03-06-2005, 05:04

sorry but how does the flash work well?

I love the design but there's nothing there that required flash.

joeyx2000 · 03-06-2005, 05:04

@d*d: yah it took a while to load the images...this is also a problem regarding flash..nwyz Thanks =)

@joewebber: thanks also joewebber =)

joeyx2000 · 03-06-2005, 05:17

@smallebeer: you can use flash in an animated website like 2advanced.com but flash can also be used in making simple websites...in my opinion, flash website will not only be limited on the animations ..but on how you do the design.. =)

Limbo · 03-06-2005, 05:25

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made at Arstream

LOL - is that really the name of a company? very unfortunate.

I like the layout and colours - but I hate popups (I like to navigate forward and back - call me old fashioned but splash pages and popup sites do not top the usability list)

Also not sure why it was built in flash - HTML, CSS and Flash sections would be a better solution IMO.

Some good stuff tho

joeyx2000 · 03-06-2005, 05:42

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Originally Posted by Limbo

LOL - is that really the name of a company? very unfortunate.

why are you saying very unfortunate??.... well i use flash because it's only a personal site...and i consider it as my experimental site..please visit the sites that i made in web section...you can see how i use flash in there...thanks for ur compliment thou...

Joewebber · 03-06-2005, 05:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by smallbeer

sorry but how does the flash work well?

I love the design but there's nothing there that required flash.

Why does it have to require Flash for it to work well?

joeyx2000 · 03-06-2005, 06:05

i mentioned above that i used flash to have it a litte animated...well off cors i can use html for my site..

just a little animation to give a little soul for my website..=)

smallbeer · 03-06-2005, 06:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joewebber

Why does it have to require Flash for it to work well?

I didn't say that.

You said the flash works well. I asked you to explain.

I'm not a flash basher I just think there's a time and a place for it. The banner images maybe. All the text and links though? There are so many reasons not to do it we shouldn't even be having this discussion.

As I said I love the design but the site as a whole is flawed because of the use of flash.

d*d · 03-06-2005, 06:13

I going to agree with joeyx2000, the little animated details lift this site, you can, with a fair bit of coding experience recreate the animated effect using javascript and dom but why bother when flash can do it so much easier

Joewebber · 03-06-2005, 06:24

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Originally Posted by smallbeer

I didn't say that.

You said the flash works well. I asked you to explain.

I'm not a flash basher I just think there's a time and a place for it. The banner images maybe. All the text and links though? There are so many reasons not to do it we shouldn't even be having this discussion.

As I said I love the design but the site as a whole is flawed because of the use of flash.

I agree with you about the use of Flash, I'm against the use of it where its not needed.
Think I worded it wrong, just meant that the site works well.

I formally retract my previous statement

joeyx2000 · 03-06-2005, 06:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by d*d

I going to agree with joeyx2000, the little animated details lift this site, you can, with a fair bit of coding experience recreate the animated effect using javascript and dom but why bother when flash can do it so much easier

thanks d*d..and thanks also for all ur comments...

more comments are still welcome

mike_m · 03-06-2005, 06:46

looks sweet joey, what I think people are trying to say, is why have the *entire* site in flash, when you could just have *sections* of the page - for example the top half in flash, the bottom in html - then you could have links to pages, and people could use thier forward and backward browser functions etc. while still having the animated effects at the top - the site would look and work the same, but be easier to deal with, capische?

Saying that, I don't care too much about that, it's your personal site, do whatever you like with it - just don't take it personally when this forum gets a little preachy.

I would get rid of the pop up though, there's just no need for it

gray · 03-06-2005, 06:57

im going to do my site in flash, sick to death of css and standards have enough of that at work and noone wants to read blogs.

dont get me wrong, xhtml is fantastic and hand coding in it is second nature to me now, but sometimes you need to have a bit fun and do what you want, especially on your own site.

joeyx2000 · 05-06-2005, 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_mitry

I would get rid of the pop up though, there's just no need for it

i tried experementing on my site..like getting rid of the pop-up and it looks good..but doing it both flash and html make my design crappy..ill just stick to fully-flash this time...

pgo · 05-06-2005, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by d*d

I going to agree with joeyx2000, the little animated details lift this site, you can, with a fair bit of coding experience recreate the animated effect using javascript and dom but why bother when flash can do it so much easier

Because maybe she doesn't care if Google finds her website, but I'm willing to bet that clients do. And with a site built in Flash, it's not going to happen.

In addition, accessibility to people with disabilities is thrown out the window when using pure Flash.

And I hate, hate, hate pop-up windows that take over the screen and re-size themselves. That alone is enough for me to leave a site immediately.

I like the design, though. I just don't think it should be 100% Flash.

@gray - you're right. Flash is fine - there's nothing wrong with it. And, being a personal site or portfolio site built in Flash is fine. But I'm willing to bet that clients will not want a Flash site if they're aware of its shortcomings - they'll want (X)HTML/CSS all the way (or so-called "plain HTML" if they refuse to keep up with the times like I had one guy doing...I finally just stopped arguing and built the site with standards anyway).

03-06-2005, 04:10	#1 (permalink)
joeyx2000 Design Diet Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19	My Fully Flash Site Hello try to look at my personal site...need some comments if any..Thanks! www.jaceycraft.effson.com

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mike_m Work faster microphone .. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,709	looks sweet joey, what I think people are trying to say, is why have the entire site in flash, when you could just have sections of the page - for example the top half in flash, the bottom in html - then you could have links to pages, and people could use thier forward and backward browser functions etc. while still having the animated effects at the top - the site would look and work the same, but be easier to deal with, capische? Saying that, I don't care too much about that, it's your personal site, do whatever you like with it - just don't take it personally when this forum gets a little preachy. I would get rid of the pop up though, there's just no need for it __________________

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03-06-2005, 04:17	#2 (permalink)
emil dt immigrant Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bucharest - Romania Posts: 6,998	It looks nice, simple and clean, I am not sure you needed flash for that kind of thing, though. What I don't like is the popup window. It would work fine without it IMHO I have FF configured to open clicked links in a new tab in the same window, so I could not return to your page because I had no tabs... Other than that simple, easy to navigate, nice

03-06-2005, 04:25	#3 (permalink)
joeyx2000 Design Diet Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19	thanks for the comment...i use flash to have it a little animated...thanks again emil...

03-06-2005, 04:31	#4 (permalink)
d*d Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,299	Cybergraphy?? nice site - will meet a bit of resistance from people here because it's flash but i think it's fine - work seems to take a while to load for what it is though

03-06-2005, 04:52	#5 (permalink)
Joewebber Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Exeter Posts: 773	While I'm usually against the use of Flash, I think it works well here. Like the colours and simplicity of the layout. Nice work

03-06-2005, 05:04	#6 (permalink)
smallbeer I Ain't Losing Any Sleep™ Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,200	sorry but how does the flash work well? I love the design but there's nothing there that required flash.

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joeyx2000 Design Diet Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19	@d*d: yah it took a while to load the images...this is also a problem regarding flash..nwyz Thanks =) @joewebber: thanks also joewebber =)

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joeyx2000 Design Diet Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19	@smallebeer: you can use flash in an animated website like 2advanced.com but flash can also be used in making simple websites...in my opinion, flash website will not only be limited on the animations ..but on how you do the design.. =)

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joeyx2000 Design Diet Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 19	i mentioned above that i used flash to have it a litte animated...well off cors i can use html for my site.. just a little animation to give a little soul for my website..=)

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d*d Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,299	I going to agree with joeyx2000, the little animated details lift this site, you can, with a fair bit of coding experience recreate the animated effect using javascript and dom but why bother when flash can do it so much easier

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gray i still want paying Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: newcastle, uk Posts: 4,713	im going to do my site in flash, sick to death of css and standards have enough of that at work and noone wants to read blogs. dont get me wrong, xhtml is fantastic and hand coding in it is second nature to me now, but sometimes you need to have a bit fun and do what you want, especially on your own site.

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