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wizdude · 01-06-2005, 19:02

To start off, I know you all are going to hate the fact that I used frames. PLEASE don't base your judgement of the site simply on that, because my friends seem to like em', and that's what I'm buliding the site for...normal people that don't care about Standard Coding and whatnot. So, please just give me suggestions and review my unfinished site...

www.wizdude.com

seen.to · 01-06-2005, 19:31

I suggest you ditch the frames - there really is no need for them. What are they doing on your site that you couldn't otherwise do without them?

Centered text? Ditch that too.

And since you are making a site for 'normal people' try viewing it in a normal resolution (800x600 and 1024x768) - hmmm sideways scrollbars on your outer frames.

The problem with frames isn't just about being standards compliant... Theres SEO - you get none with frames because search engines just read your frameset... and bookmarking pages isn't possible with frames based sites... neither is sending people a direct link without creating a seperate frameset for each link or using PHP to determine which page is loaded where.

If you do insist on using frames, which you shouldn't, why have pop-ups for some of the content rather than load them in one of the frames?

On a positive note I like the idea of having a snail with your name.

wizdude · 01-06-2005, 19:38

Well, thanks for the feedback. I fixed a few things in there, and I knew the frames would make you all VERY ticked

Oh thee well...I still insist *which I shouldnt* on using frames...

emil · 02-06-2005, 02:39

frames are shit, frames are pointless, frames are no good.
1. they are shit, because they look real
nasty when you resize the window (as
seen.to said).
2. they are pointless because they do
not reduce that much your loading time,
instead you have to create 3/4 pages to
display one.
You also have a lot of scrollbars to deal
with. Maybe you could confuse more your
visitors by adding scrollbars to the left
of the window as well (there's a javascript
that does that)
3. they are no good for all of the reasons
pointed out by seen.to

On the design of the site... it's balck text,
blue links on white background... where's
the design?

Oh, and I don't like you changing my cursor
to the "move" cursor on links...

Sorry needs some work/rethinking

SeanMedia · 02-06-2005, 10:50

Change the cursor to the default 'hand' style rather than the 'move' style over hyperlinks. This will simply confuse people that don't know much about computers.

Brown · 03-06-2005, 03:19

...and even those who do...

mademan · 06-06-2005, 00:42

The Banner is effective, but yeah rest didnt interest me, i would like to see some of your other designs.

pgo · 06-06-2005, 00:47

The first thing on a page shouldn't be "admin login" - it looks tacky.

In fact, I'd say it shouldn't be on there at all.

seen.to · 08-06-2005, 04:54

Someones been busy :p

But lose the frames... seriously lose them, there's rarely a point in having them, especially in this site.

Oh and lose the tables while you are at it - you've copied... no that's not the right word sorry, emulated, there we go, you've emulated a table-free CSS layout but you've filled it with tables and frames.

Don't!

Looking much better overall so far though.

emil · 08-06-2005, 05:12

I agree, it's a great improvement,
I think he's still working on the code,
for instance on the graphics page I see
no tables

Quote:

emil · 08-06-2005, 05:20

oops

http://www.narate.co.uk/

oli · 08-06-2005, 05:36

What are you doing nicking someones design off this forum and then posting it for review here ?

Cock.

emil · 08-06-2005, 05:38

just what I said

pgo · 08-06-2005, 05:38

Hahaha. Red-handed.

I knew that was familiar for some reason, but I just dismissed it.

oli · 08-06-2005, 05:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by emilpaun

just what I said

I know, I wanted to save it before he took it down because Chris isnt around.

Brown · 08-06-2005, 05:45

excellent. priceless.

emil · 08-06-2005, 05:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by oli

I know, I wanted to save it before he took it down because Chris isnt around.

I have a printscreen, too

Great minds...

Brown · 08-06-2005, 06:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by emilpaun

Great minds...

fools seldom differ...

mademan · 08-06-2005, 14:13

bahaha busted - not cool dude

d*d · 09-06-2005, 04:27

what a prize cock, will we ever hear from him again?

01-06-2005, 19:02	#1 (permalink)
wizdude Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Functional Frames? {Please Review!} To start off, I know you all are going to hate the fact that I used frames. PLEASE don't base your judgement of the site simply on that, because my friends seem to like em', and that's what I'm buliding the site for...normal people that don't care about Standard Coding and whatnot. So, please just give me suggestions and review my unfinished site... www.wizdude.com

01-06-2005, 19:31	#2 (permalink)
seen.to unusual suspect ™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: DE, USA Posts: 2,897	I suggest you ditch the frames - there really is no need for them. What are they doing on your site that you couldn't otherwise do without them? Centered text? Ditch that too. And since you are making a site for 'normal people' try viewing it in a normal resolution (800x600 and 1024x768) - hmmm sideways scrollbars on your outer frames. The problem with frames isn't just about being standards compliant... Theres SEO - you get none with frames because search engines just read your frameset... and bookmarking pages isn't possible with frames based sites... neither is sending people a direct link without creating a seperate frameset for each link or using PHP to determine which page is loaded where. If you do insist on using frames, which you shouldn't, why have pop-ups for some of the content rather than load them in one of the frames? On a positive note I like the idea of having a snail with your name. __________________ [[proverbs and quotes]] [[blog]] [[work]] [[photowebby - some photo's by me]]

08-06-2005, 04:54	#9 (permalink)
seen.to unusual suspect ™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: DE, USA Posts: 2,897	Someones been busy :p But lose the frames... seriously lose them, there's rarely a point in having them, especially in this site. Oh and lose the tables while you are at it - you've copied... no that's not the right word sorry, emulated, there we go, you've emulated a table-free CSS layout but you've filled it with tables and frames. Don't! Looking much better overall so far though. __________________ [[proverbs and quotes]] [[blog]] [[work]] [[photowebby - some photo's by me]]

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oli I Call Shenanigans™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester, England. Posts: 9,736	What are you doing nicking someones design off this forum and then posting it for review here ? Cock. Attached Thumbnails

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01-06-2005, 19:38	#3 (permalink)
wizdude Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Well, thanks for the feedback. I fixed a few things in there, and I knew the frames would make you all VERY ticked Oh thee well...I still insist which I shouldnt on using frames...

02-06-2005, 02:39	#4 (permalink)
emil dt immigrant Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bucharest - Romania Posts: 6,998	frames are shit, frames are pointless, frames are no good. 1. they are shit, because they look real nasty when you resize the window (as seen.to said). 2. they are pointless because they do not reduce that much your loading time, instead you have to create 3/4 pages to display one. You also have a lot of scrollbars to deal with. Maybe you could confuse more your visitors by adding scrollbars to the left of the window as well (there's a javascript that does that) 3. they are no good for all of the reasons pointed out by seen.to On the design of the site... it's balck text, blue links on white background... where's the design? Oh, and I don't like you changing my cursor to the "move" cursor on links... Sorry needs some work/rethinking

02-06-2005, 10:50	#5 (permalink)
SeanMedia Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Belfast, Ireland Posts: 416	Change the cursor to the default 'hand' style rather than the 'move' style over hyperlinks. This will simply confuse people that don't know much about computers.

03-06-2005, 03:19	#6 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,147	...and even those who do...

06-06-2005, 00:42	#7 (permalink)
mademan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 17	The Banner is effective, but yeah rest didnt interest me, i would like to see some of your other designs.

06-06-2005, 00:47	#8 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	The first thing on a page shouldn't be "admin login" - it looks tacky. In fact, I'd say it shouldn't be on there at all.

08-06-2005, 05:20	#11 (permalink)
emil dt immigrant Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bucharest - Romania Posts: 6,998	oops http://www.narate.co.uk/

08-06-2005, 05:38	#13 (permalink)
emil dt immigrant Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bucharest - Romania Posts: 6,998	just what I said

08-06-2005, 05:38	#14 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	Hahaha. Red-handed. I knew that was familiar for some reason, but I just dismissed it.

08-06-2005, 05:45	#16 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,147	excellent. priceless.

08-06-2005, 14:13	#19 (permalink)
mademan Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 17	bahaha busted - not cool dude

09-06-2005, 04:27	#20 (permalink)
d*d Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 3,299	what a prize cock, will we ever hear from him again?

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