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dcd · 07-06-2003, 06:12

Hi!

Just want peoples opinions please?

d2c¦uk

Thanks

oli · 07-06-2003, 06:35

I like it m8 - big improvement over the last one

The logo is nice and the white colour scheme is a lot easier on the eyes.

Stickman · 07-06-2003, 07:56

Wasn't your old site that shitty dark blue and orange thing?
(I didn't like that)

If so, this is a massive improvement. Its a nice design - better colours and a good logo.

Well done, mate - I've even given you a thumbs-up!

dixon · 07-06-2003, 09:22

good stuff but i dont like pop ups 8(

roto · 07-06-2003, 09:50

I agree that it's good stuff, too...BUT I don't like seeing "under construction" anywhere on modern websites. It just gives me that oh-so-early-90's feel when web design was animated gifs and Front Page experts could get 6 figure salaried positions.

oli · 07-06-2003, 10:03

Quote:

i dont like pop ups

me neither .. did I mention that ?

Quote:

Front Page experts could get 6 figure salaried positions.

If only

dcd · 07-06-2003, 12:26

By popups do you mean the windows displaying the main contents?

If so, how do you suggest I change it?

As for the under construction - I agree, but it was just going up like that whilst I had a site check done! That part of the site will be complete by the end of tomorrow!!!

Oh and yeah my last site was that crap grey and orange thing!!! I've changed my style somewhat.

Thanks

g-a-t-e · 07-06-2003, 12:31

It looks nice, very clean.

IMHO with the excessive use of scrollbars It just sucks.

Where's the SEO? If you going to open a new window leave JavaScript out of the opening. Sure you'll end up with nav buttons, and status bar (I hate pages without status), but at least s.e's are going to follow it and you can still resize the page for good effect.

In fact I'd go as far to say DON'T use popups! A well designed site will only use popups for informational purposes which requires to be viewable at the same time as the opener.

In all its a nice concept, but its far too much like 99% of the other 'eye candy' portfolios out there.

g-a-t-e · 07-06-2003, 12:32

and really! 'Under Construction' don't add it if it's not finished!

EDIT: I don't read other peoples comments before writing a review on a site thus remaining un-bias and fresh. That's why some of other peoples comments have been repeated.

oli · 07-06-2003, 12:32

Quote:

By popups do you mean the windows displaying the main contents?

If so, how do you suggest I change it?

not use pop ups

dcd · 07-06-2003, 13:22

I mean how do you suggest I keep the same design idea but exclude the popups! So that the content is centred vertically?

oli · 07-06-2003, 15:53

you could use an iFrame ?

Stickman · 07-06-2003, 16:40

An old fashioned way (I'm not recommending this, just offering it up):

Code:

<body leftmargin=0 topmargin=0 marginheight=0 marginwidth=0>
<table height=100% cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=100% border=0>
<tr valign=center align=middle>
<td>(pretty much) CENTRED CONTENT</td>
</tr>
</table>
</body>

Stickman · 07-06-2003, 16:43

Fwiw, I'd just vertically centre it for 1024x768 (most common) and code it in xhtml/css.

g-a-t-e · 07-06-2003, 20:12

IFrames won't do you much good on the seach engines, and you have compatability issues with older browsers.

dcd · 08-06-2003, 04:03

Thanks - I'll go for the 1024x768 centred way I think!

TriPixels · 08-06-2003, 10:39

Yeah... iFrames aren't too good... I don't like them much... you can always use DHTML's <div></div>, but I don't like that either... I think that basically anything a frame/iframe can do, a table can do just as well or better!

roto · 08-06-2003, 13:28

I have no problems with I-frames. You have to look at your user base and decide if this is the right option for you.

Pixelsurgeon certainly gets tons of traffic every day and they're not scared to use Iframe. Check their source if you don't believe me.

Stickman · 08-06-2003, 13:35

Ermm..

<div> isn't dhtml, it's an html element (for block formatting). It's great because it lends itself to css very well. A div will work like an iframe when you list overflow:auto in your css.

A table is an old-fashioned way to construct a page layout, ideally tables should contain tabular data and not graphics and a million and one spacer gifs etc.

The dcd design could easily be done in xhtml/css.

There is a thread about getting started with xhtml here:

xhtml - css - help!

CirtexDesign · 08-06-2003, 22:11

frames = trash and headaches

php, shtml, asp, ect... Includes are so much better and easier to use.
I know from when I first started to make sites with frames, I now look back on it and feal sorry for my self.

-Stephen

07-06-2003, 06:12	#1 (permalink)
dcd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canterbury Posts: 115	My New Portfolio!!! Hi! Just want peoples opinions please? d2c¦uk Thanks __________________ Living in the Slow Lane

07-06-2003, 06:35	#2 (permalink)
oli Free Ring Ding™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 9,536	I like it m8 - big improvement over the last one The logo is nice and the white colour scheme is a lot easier on the eyes. __________________ ..................

07-06-2003, 07:56	#3 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,632	Wasn't your old site that shitty dark blue and orange thing? (I didn't like that) If so, this is a massive improvement. Its a nice design - better colours and a good logo. Well done, mate - I've even given you a thumbs-up! Last edited by Stickman : 07-06-2003 at 08:00.

07-06-2003, 09:22	#4 (permalink)
dixon Custom User Title Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brighton Posts: 628	good stuff but i dont like pop ups 8( __________________ Dixon

07-06-2003, 09:50	#5 (permalink)
roto This is it - ground zero. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paper St. Posts: 4,200	I agree that it's good stuff, too...BUT I don't like seeing "under construction" anywhere on modern websites. It just gives me that oh-so-early-90's feel when web design was animated gifs and Front Page experts could get 6 figure salaried positions. __________________ fun: HGC v.4 \| last.fm: DT \| me \| *oi! fck u roto: ...via meebo! New to interweb design?** Your friends at dt can help.

07-06-2003, 12:26	#7 (permalink)
dcd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canterbury Posts: 115	By popups do you mean the windows displaying the main contents? If so, how do you suggest I change it? As for the under construction - I agree, but it was just going up like that whilst I had a site check done! That part of the site will be complete by the end of tomorrow!!! Oh and yeah my last site was that crap grey and orange thing!!! I've changed my style somewhat. Thanks __________________ Living in the Slow Lane

07-06-2003, 12:31	#8 (permalink)
g-a-t-e Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere between enlightenment and stupidity Posts: 34	It looks nice, very clean. IMHO with the excessive use of scrollbars It just sucks. Where's the SEO? If you going to open a new window leave JavaScript out of the opening. Sure you'll end up with nav buttons, and status bar (I hate pages without status), but at least s.e's are going to follow it and you can still resize the page for good effect. In fact I'd go as far to say DON'T use popups! A well designed site will only use popups for informational purposes which requires to be viewable at the same time as the opener. In all its a nice concept, but its far too much like 99% of the other 'eye candy' portfolios out there.

07-06-2003, 12:32	#9 (permalink)
g-a-t-e Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere between enlightenment and stupidity Posts: 34	and really! 'Under Construction' don't add it if it's not finished! EDIT: I don't read other peoples comments before writing a review on a site thus remaining un-bias and fresh. That's why some of other peoples comments have been repeated. Last edited by g-a-t-e : 07-06-2003 at 12:35.

07-06-2003, 13:22	#11 (permalink)
dcd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canterbury Posts: 115	I mean how do you suggest I keep the same design idea but exclude the popups! So that the content is centred vertically? __________________ Living in the Slow Lane

07-06-2003, 15:53	#12 (permalink)
oli Free Ring Ding™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 9,536	you could use an iFrame ? __________________ ..................

07-06-2003, 16:43	#14 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,632	Fwiw, I'd just vertically centre it for 1024x768 (most common) and code it in xhtml/css.

07-06-2003, 20:12	#15 (permalink)
g-a-t-e Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere between enlightenment and stupidity Posts: 34	IFrames won't do you much good on the seach engines, and you have compatability issues with older browsers.

08-06-2003, 04:03	#16 (permalink)
dcd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canterbury Posts: 115	Thanks - I'll go for the 1024x768 centred way I think! __________________ Living in the Slow Lane

08-06-2003, 10:39	#17 (permalink)
TriPixels A Hardcore Relaxer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Elizabethtown, KY, USA Posts: 230	Yeah... iFrames aren't too good... I don't like them much... you can always use DHTML's <div></div>, but I don't like that either... I think that basically anything a frame/iframe can do, a table can do just as well or better! __________________ How much longer before you click on my link? CLICK MY LINK

08-06-2003, 13:28	#18 (permalink)
roto This is it - ground zero. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paper St. Posts: 4,200	I don't mind a little iframe here and there :) I have no problems with I-frames. You have to look at your user base and decide if this is the right option for you. Pixelsurgeon certainly gets tons of traffic every day and they're not scared to use Iframe. Check their source if you don't believe me. __________________ fun: HGC v.4 \| last.fm: DT \| me \| *oi! fck u roto: ...via meebo! New to interweb design?** Your friends at dt can help.

08-06-2003, 13:35	#19 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,632	Ermm.. <div> isn't dhtml, it's an html element (for block formatting). It's great because it lends itself to css very well. A div will work like an iframe when you list overflow:auto in your css. A table is an old-fashioned way to construct a page layout, ideally tables should contain tabular data and not graphics and a million and one spacer gifs etc. The dcd design could easily be done in xhtml/css. There is a thread about getting started with xhtml here: xhtml - css - help!

08-06-2003, 22:11	#20 (permalink)
CirtexDesign Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: SC, USA Posts: 23	frames = trash and headaches php, shtml, asp, ect... Includes are so much better and easier to use. I know from when I first started to make sites with frames, I now look back on it and feal sorry for my self. -Stephen

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