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Old 03-07-2008, 03:32   #1 (permalink)
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I'm a Newbie - I guess it's my turn

Wow... just found this site. I'm gonna have a lot of questions for all of you vets.

Anyway... I kinda fell into building sites for others because of the site I built for my business (full time fishing guide). I don't have formal training (as you'll see) so my code probably doesn't "validate" and what not. The biggest issue I have when building a site is trying to get tables to behave the way I want them to. Oh well... the more I read up on stuff here the more it seems that I shouldn't be using tables anyway.

My personal site (needs updating). It's informative but I think it needs some lipstick and rouge. captainclay.com

The first site that I was approached to do (I didn't write the content. the owner of the site wanted to write it. He also updates it on his own. I tried to show him how and he does the best he can). captaingregd.com

The second site I hired for. thecaptchoice.com

The most recent site for another fishing guide. It's still a work in progress. action-charters.com

Well... I'm still learning through trial and error. Any advice you guys have would be much appreciated.

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Old 03-07-2008, 11:00   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to DT what a nice intro..LOL
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:27   #3 (permalink)
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:29   #4 (permalink)
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You should go look around sites such as CSS Remix, Faveup, and CSS Heroes to see what other sites are doing for inspiration.

Currently your sites look like they belong in the 90's.

Plus, I am a self trained website developer, and my code validates, so there's no excuse there! :P
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:29   #5 (permalink)
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:32   #6 (permalink)
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:33   #7 (permalink)
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You should go look around sites such as CSS Remix, Faveup, and CSS Heroes to see what other sites are doing for inspiration.

Currently your sites look like they belong in the 90's.

Plus, I am a self trained website developer, and my code validates, so there's no excuse there! :P


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Haha! I find the tagline really funny. Priest joke, anyone?
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:37   #8 (permalink)
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:38   #9 (permalink)
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I was waiting for the animated .gif shark from a while back to pop out of nowhere.

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Old 03-07-2008, 11:44   #10 (permalink)
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ahoy there captin

so your actually a fisherman...thats a noble proffesion.

Dont bother building websites its a shit job
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Old 03-07-2008, 11:55   #11 (permalink)
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I was waiting for the animated .gif shark from a while back to pop out of nowhere.


LMFAO!! Holy hell that made me laugh!
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Old 03-07-2008, 22:12   #12 (permalink)
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Ahhh.... I figured as much. I've been a member of a big Florida fishing forum for 8 years and they treat new guys the same way. They treat them like crap too. It's all good.

Appearance is important but content and SE placement is king with the business I'm in. Do a Google search for Tampa Fishing Charters and see where my site is ranked. It keeps me pretty busy running charters.

I was kind of hoping for some suggestions or constructive criticism but I kinda knew better.

BTW - at floridasportsman.com we have the equivalent to your animated shark. We call it the Tanker. It's some stupid picture of a tanker out on the ocean with a brewing storm coming it. It was posted so many times that now every time someone posts something that has been posted ad nauseum, somebody will inevitably post the "tanker" picture.

Thanks for the typical new guy welcome.
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Old 03-07-2008, 22:37   #13 (permalink)
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ahoy there captin

so your actually a fisherman...thats a noble proffesion.

Dont bother building websites its a shit job
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Old 03-07-2008, 22:55   #14 (permalink)
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Ahhh.... I figured as much. I've been a member of a big Florida fishing forum for 8 years and they treat new guys the same way. They treat them like crap too. It's all good.

Trust me, you were getting the nice treatment.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:03   #15 (permalink)
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Strange I thought where folks posted links for inspiration was constructive. There's really not much that can be said for them, all the graphics in them are pretty dated in style, so any C&C would be very very lengthy and be the equivalent of start over really.

And that said as it's not your main thing and you've only been doing it on the side, they're not that bad - there's much worse. But if you want to bring them up to speed in quality and look they have a long way to go.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:07   #16 (permalink)
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i think that if you want your site to be more information based - the layout is not bad

but if you wanted this to be a bit more fun for your audience you could always make the design alot better with some flash
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:42   #17 (permalink)
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but if you wanted this to be a bit more fun for your audience you could always make the design alot better with some flash

I don't think flash is necessary - the site design is generally looking outdated and could do with a cleaner look to concentrate on the content.

Take a look at sites on places such as:

http://cssremix.com/
CSS Showcase Gallery of CSS and Tableless Design
CSS Mania


They will usually give you a good indication of good current web design.

You've managed the hard part - keeping the content fresh. Regular updating will keep visitors coming back, even if the design isn't particularly fetching. A well designed site with outdated content will only get you so far!

Your Tampa Fishing Charters, Tarpon Springs Fishing Charters, Clearwater Fishing Charters, St. Petersburg Fishing Charters website is rather blue - maybe introduce another colour to give it a contrast and allow you to highlight your content more?

A site like COLOURlovers :: Color Trends + Palettes can help with colour inspiration.
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:50   #18 (permalink)
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Take a look at sites on places such as:

CSS Remix | A Fresh Blend of the Best-Designed Web 2.0 Sites[/url]
CSS Showcase Gallery of CSS and Tableless Design[/url]
CSS Mania[/url]


They will usually give you a good indication of good current web design.

You've managed the hard part - keeping the content fresh. Regular updating will keep visitors coming back, even if the design isn't particularly fetching. A well designed site with outdated content will only get you so far!

Your Tampa Fishing Charters, Tarpon Springs Fishing Charters, Clearwater Fishing Charters, St. Petersburg Fishing Charters[/url] website is rather blue - maybe introduce another colour to give it a contrast and allow you to highlight your content more?

A site like COLOURlovers :: Color Trends + Palettes[/url] can help with colour inspiration.

Thanks... I will check out those sites... as well as the others mentioned earlier in this thread.

You're right about the site being overly blue and that has bothered me for a while. I'm going to figure out a way to change that.
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:47   #19 (permalink)
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Read articles on blogs people have about design. There are a ton of resources that can help you.
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Old 13-07-2008, 22:45   #20 (permalink)
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Alright... I've taken some of the suggestions to heart. I threw out my old FP2003 program and ponied up for the Adobe Design Premere Package and I've been TRYING to learn CSS with Dreamweaver. This on eisn't published yet but hopefully it looks better than the previous tampaflatsfishing.*om site to you guys.
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