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Old 06-08-2006, 18:15   #1 (permalink)
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My Design Work =================

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Can you give me some examples of your work?
Thanx
Since I already answered that question in the other thread, I'm recycling this post to showcase my stuff:

Company site (still in construction): http://www.genxy.net
example CMS site: http://wt.genxy.net

- example redesign mockup (in progress): http://www.brunoserge.com/enduro/

( current Enduro Motorsports site (for comparison - designer unknown) http://www.enduromotorsports.com/HOME.html )

example gallery site (no CMS): http://brunoserge.com/homemcardoso/
example flash sites: http://www.brunoserge.com/iconandtheblackroses.com/
http://www.yasmindayspa.com/

portfolio page: http://www.brunoserge.com
(very) old portfolio site: http://www.brunoserge.com/v1/

Logos: http://www.brunoserge.com/logo.html

Personal MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/brunoserge
Music MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/rodivine


And that's about it for recent web design I guess.
Sites may be slow. Servers have been acting stupid since the last installation, I think it's at the level of the datacenter, we have to talk to him.
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Old 06-08-2006, 19:07   #2 (permalink)
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You got some pretty nice work. Good job
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Old 06-08-2006, 19:59   #3 (permalink)
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You got some pretty nice work. Good job
Hey thanks

pure9 have some pretty nice work. Is that just you?
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Old 06-08-2006, 21:30   #4 (permalink)
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Your photography out does your design work. I think you should concentrate on expanding your photography skills.
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Old 07-08-2006, 02:19   #5 (permalink)
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Your photography out does your design work. I think you should concentrate on expanding your photography skills.
Look again.. I think most people will disagree with you on that, me included. Remember, in a digital age, photography = photography + photoshop, and I'm a digital retouching expert, in a sense, so that places me half way in on photography.

I also need to get some more money with designs and invest on better photography equipment, which I don't have (a new lens would be good).

The thing is, I'm 1st a designer because if someone tells me "I'm a professional web/graphic designer", even though I have no degree in design I instantly feel that I will probably kick their butt on it, because there's a LOT of designers, but very few are actually good. Photography is much more competitive - if someone tells me "I'm a professional photographer", in that case I will keep humble because probably he's much better, or at least as cabable as me in that field. See the difference?

Thanks for the comment though! I appreciate. I looked at your portfolio and I like it, the landscape photography is beautiful. Again, just like I explained, I feel that you'd more easily "kick my butt" in photography than in web design. Am I wrong? Is it me? I'd like to figure out..
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Old 07-08-2006, 04:33   #6 (permalink)
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whats with all the butt kicking, I agree with adras, I think your photography is better than your design - but that's not to say your design is bad it's good - but it's not great
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Old 07-08-2006, 04:49   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah you guys are saying that without taking into consideration that the not-as-good works you saw are the older ones, and that right now I'm exactly at the level of the best work you probably saw in the portfolio. If you were professional photographers you would see that my strong point is the designs. You know what? Whatever

I'm not gonna try to argue here. Just think whatever, doesn't matter.
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Old 07-08-2006, 05:14   #8 (permalink)
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First impressions, I think you sound pretty arrogant.
I agree with previous comments, your work isn't great, but it's not bad. I'm not particularly keen on your style, all the gradients etc. 2advanced comes to mind.
Your a digital retouching "expert"......what makes you an expert?

As I said, your coming accross as a pretty arrogant person. No offense though.

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Your mark-up looks like dreamweaver html.
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Old 07-08-2006, 06:11   #9 (permalink)
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he sounds like a numpty if you ask me...
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Old 07-08-2006, 06:33   #10 (permalink)
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First impressions, I think you sound pretty arrogant.
I agree with previous comments, your work isn't great, but it's not bad. I'm not particularly keen on your style, all the gradients etc. 2advanced comes to mind.
Your a digital retouching "expert"......what makes you an expert?

As I said, your coming accross as a pretty arrogant person. No offense though.
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Your mark-up looks like dreamweaver html.
I knew someone would say that, because when someone doesn't just bend over and accepts opinions blindly, that is taken as arrogant by people who never experienced that defensive action.

I'm not a beginner, I'm a designer and I'm here to learn of course, but by experience and dialog, as opposed to just assuming everyone else has valid opinions and good advices to give me. That's not true: I have to be picky with the people I take advices/reviews from, and I have to defend myself from comments that I find wrong. It's my professional responsibility.

When I show my work here, of course I'm open to all kinds of comments, but I have the right to be defensive against the ones I don't agree with. A truly arrogant person wouldn't even be sharing the portfolio.

If my work "isn't great", show me better stuff done by you. That's all I ask. And I'm giving you the opportunity to justify your statement.

What makes me an "expert" in digital retouching? Well.. what would make you a good designer? A college degree? Obviously, no. A college degree makes a doctor or an engineer, not a good designer, because college degrees in creative fields are not a standard certification, just orientation (and a way for colleges to get money from non-technical fields).

So why shouldn't I have the right to make my own self-evaluation of my skills and capabilities, based on comparisons between my work and real-life graduated designers? Is the quality of my work inferior? I don't think it is. I could probably say I am fully graduated in design, and theoretically if nobody asked for a diploma, no one would say a thing. Would that be wrong? It would, if I was a lousy designer taking a job to a good one. But most of the time that wouldn't happen, considering the way this industry is going. To answer your question, I'm an expert in that field until you or anyone else can give me a non-expert doing a clearly better job.

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Yeah I used dreamweaver for some of the old stuff on my own. So what? Now I have always developpers working to do the code parts, like most web designers have, and I only have to worry about the actual layout and looks/interface, and its integration with the engine (like most web designers do).

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he sounds like a numpty if you ask me...
This kind of attitude is more harmful to the forum/thread integrity than anything I could have done.

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Old 07-08-2006, 06:38   #11 (permalink)
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someones touchy about not having a design degree, just keep telling yourself it doesn't matter and it won't - will someone give this guy a hug
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Old 07-08-2006, 06:42   #12 (permalink)
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ffs. You asked for the opinion of others which is exactly what you got.
Put your toys back in your pram and try and work on the constructive comments given to you.
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Old 07-08-2006, 06:49   #13 (permalink)
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Ok, if you guys just prefer to ignore what I'm validly stating, and pursue a pointless and ignorant discussion, I'll respect your freedom to do it.

Just don't expect me to reply to that. I'll reply to all responsible, smart and constructive comments.
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Old 07-08-2006, 06:51   #14 (permalink)
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:36   #15 (permalink)
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:40   #16 (permalink)
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ha ha mon the degrees.

give the guy some credit though, it's still 2003 over in America…
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:54   #17 (permalink)
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I'm not even going to waste my time posting. This guys a bit full of himself.

Learn xhtml and css. Only 12 year olds use dreamweaver.
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Old 07-08-2006, 08:03   #18 (permalink)
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I love it when people try to say their portfolio doesnt reflect them and their current work in progress is far above and beyond.

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Old 07-08-2006, 08:13   #19 (permalink)
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not my cup of tea, the logo's dont really stand up to much
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Old 07-08-2006, 10:38   #20 (permalink)
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When I show my work here, of course I'm open to all kinds of comments, but I have the right to be defensive against the ones I don't agree with. A truly arrogant person wouldn't even be sharing the portfolio.
No, an arrogant person shows it and gets upset, defensive, dismissive, and challenging when their work is criticized. A critique is where you ask for people's thoughts and you accept them with grace - not getting defensive. You can certainly question someone's opinion, but to get completely dismissive and to challenge anyone who's critical of your work to show something better is really childish.

All that does is show massive amounts of insecurity.

I think you have some decent work and I agree with adras that your photography really stands out above the design work. I might not be a professional photographer, but that doesn't mean I don't have taste or don't know anything about photography.

Your design work isn't that great - pretty average to be honest. Of course, it's better than a lot of what comes through here. For me, it's too showy - too many gradients and filters and dropshadows and "Layer effects" in general - too much like all those tutorial sites and things you find on sites like www.pixel2life.com. Granted, graphic embellishments can reinforce a brand, but generally speaking all that stuff, in most cases, just distracts from the essential purpose of design, which is communication.

You've obviously got good software skills, but I highly recommend picking up a book or two on graphic design. And one on proper web design with XHTML/CSS - like most of us professional web designers.
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