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Old 18-01-2006, 11:30   #1 (permalink)
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pick a header, any header!!!!

This is almost too pointless and small to ask opinions on, but wondered which one people prefer on here for this newsletter design. The only difference is the header colours.... to either stick with grey to tie in with the site, or go with colour variations to fit the branding.

http://www.tomvining.co.uk/designs/v...wsletter_2.htm

http://www.tomvining.co.uk/designs/v...wsletter_3.htm
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Old 18-01-2006, 11:34   #2 (permalink)
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I don't think the grey. It makes it a bit too dull. The coloured one looks better imo.
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Old 18-01-2006, 11:35   #3 (permalink)
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Old 18-01-2006, 11:42   #4 (permalink)
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Old 18-01-2006, 11:42   #5 (permalink)
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cool, that's made my mind up - I'm preferring that one too! cheers!
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Old 18-01-2006, 11:47   #6 (permalink)
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wrong answer i`m afraid
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Old 18-01-2006, 13:45   #7 (permalink)
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Old 18-01-2006, 13:59   #8 (permalink)
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meh, the grey's rough.
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Old 18-01-2006, 14:03   #9 (permalink)
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in the end I chose this one, with the colours and without the top tabs:

http://www.tomvining.co.uk/designs/v...newsletter.htm
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Old 18-01-2006, 14:04   #10 (permalink)
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....thanx for the feedback!!!
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Old 18-01-2006, 17:40   #11 (permalink)
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aaah i prefer #2 and i think it would be good to have the two lil tabs on the top aswell.
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Old 18-01-2006, 17:46   #12 (permalink)
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meh, the grey's rough.


well u bloody voted for it unless ive got mixed up. I voted for '2' as in newsletter '2', not '3', the grey one. Glad i cleared that up
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Old 18-01-2006, 17:49   #13 (permalink)
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haha i meant that one too. I meant the first url as opposed to the 2nd url. Glad i cleared that up
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Old 19-01-2006, 04:20   #14 (permalink)
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missed this thread, but that's a great looking newsletter.
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Old 19-01-2006, 04:32   #15 (permalink)
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thank's cam! It's gonna go through some minor tweaks, but otherwise that's about it. The only issue is actually getting it to look the same when built - I distinctly remember how much of an arse it is to get newsletters looking good in all mail clients!
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Old 19-01-2006, 04:35   #16 (permalink)
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thank's cam! It's gonna go through some minor tweaks, but otherwise that's about it. The only issue is actually getting it to look the same when built - I distinctly remember how much of an arse it is to get newsletters looking good in all mail clients!
aye, I can imagine that one being fairly tricky. i've done rounded corners (for teetonic newsletters) though, so it can be done - some of the drop-shadows you've got will be interesting though (plus the 'new design' star). let us see it when it's marked up
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Old 19-01-2006, 04:37   #17 (permalink)
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quality stuff, fella.
red headers rule.

any email client issues you'd care to share ???
I'm trying to get some general info before i decide whether to move away from plain or rich text to HTML ... ?
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Old 19-01-2006, 05:01   #18 (permalink)
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cam, I've been looking at your teetonic newsletter for inspiration! It always seems to catch the eye when it's in the inbox - simple, clean and well laid out - differs to alot of the newsletters I get through.

weldo, I remember having to add alot of old-school code to the newsletter template when I did this before - stuff like font tags, bgcolor etc - not nice, but it seemed to get it working across the board. I learn't the hard way on the 1st one I did by doing it all in css/xhtml to find out it didn't work in most emails, as alot don't understand modern code.

hey cam, it'd be good to hear your comments on building newsletters - how did you approach the code to get it working across various mail clients?
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Old 19-01-2006, 05:16   #19 (permalink)
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hey cam, it'd be good to hear your comments on building newsletters - how did you approach the code to get it working across various mail clients?
Pretty much as you say in your reply to weldo - go old-school html with a little css.

If you look at the source for the teetonic newsletters, you'll see that other than simple text-formatting / background-color styles (which are inline), it's all done using tables, font elements and images. That, along with testing it in Thunderbird, Mail, Outlook, Gmail, Hotmail (+ Windows Live) and anything else I could get my hands on led me to use the format I've got just now. I don't even bother testing on Lotus Notes, as it's a joke.

As we use campaignmonitor for sending, you should also send it multipart and include a text only version for those that don't receive html mail, and if you're using CM i'd also seriously consider not sending to anyone using an AOL account. Apparently they have a mechanism for reporting spam which several users have used on teetonic emails (even though we operate on an opt-in basis and have an unsubscribe link on each email). AOL monitors these spam reports and if there's enough of them, it could result in CM being banned from being able to send to AOL accounts.

The ratio you're allowed is something like 1 spam flag per 5,000 emails you send and if you continually exceed that ratio, CM will disabled your account. It's just not worth the hassle, so we don't send to AOL at all.
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Old 19-01-2006, 05:19   #20 (permalink)
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