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25-02-2004, 09:10

the old site map.
two questions,
do site maps help with search engines? because of the extra links within your "content", awhile a go I know it helped with google’s spiders
has anyone seen any good examples of site maps?

oli · 25-02-2004, 09:12

They can be usefull for accessibility reasons, as for search engines having a robots.txt file can help :
http://www.searchengineworld.com/rob...s_tutorial.htm

25-02-2004, 09:14

have you seen any good examples...

Stickman · 25-02-2004, 09:18

Article and examples:

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/imagemap/

oli · 25-02-2004, 09:18

there all the same arent they ? Just a page of links :
http://www.audi.com/com/en/sitemap/sitemap.jsp

oli · 25-02-2004, 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman

Article and examples:

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/imagemap/

image map or site map ?

Stickman · 25-02-2004, 09:20

Good point.

Brown · 25-02-2004, 09:33

google will not follow links on a page unless it has a pr of 4 or more - so unless the page your sitemap is on has a pr of 4+ then it'll not make any difference anyway, apparently. i find it is more important to get google to rank your site rather than getting it to crawl it.

ps - there are some useful php tools out there which will build you a sitemap based on a directory structure, so you don't have to keep re-building one.

25-02-2004, 09:41

I may of explained it worng with the spider bit, i dont know how it works but know some of the tricks that do help. I know a few holiday hotel booking sites used to use it as it gave them a higher ranking.

Brown · 25-02-2004, 09:44

used to use it. google changes its algorithms every 3 months or so and the rules change.

oli · 25-02-2004, 09:46

www.webmasterworld.com is the best place for google info, a few workers from goog actually go on there.

Bill Posters · 25-02-2004, 09:48

Quote:

google will not follow links on a page unless it has a pr of 4 or more

Where does that info come from?

Reason I ask is that my NPA site is PR3 afaik, but the entire site has been indexed.
I'm positioned first or second for my keywords (recently beaten out of pole position by a college course which I could overtake with just a little SEO tweaking).

Brown · 25-02-2004, 10:00

yeah, sorry, it won't follow external links from a pr >4but will index the site. cheers bill.

octane · 25-02-2004, 18:08

http://www.purevacations.com/surf/site_map.html is quite logical.

25-02-2004, 09:10	#1 (permalink)
oqpo Posts: n/a	Site maps the old site map. two questions, do site maps help with search engines? because of the extra links within your "content", awhile a go I know it helped with google’s spiders has anyone seen any good examples of site maps?

25-02-2004, 09:12	#2 (permalink)
oli Free Ring Ding™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 9,535	They can be usefull for accessibility reasons, as for search engines having a robots.txt file can help : http://www.searchengineworld.com/rob...s_tutorial.htm __________________ ..................

25-02-2004, 09:18	#5 (permalink)
oli Free Ring Ding™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 9,535	there all the same arent they ? Just a page of links : http://www.audi.com/com/en/sitemap/sitemap.jsp __________________ ..................

25-02-2004, 09:46	#11 (permalink)
oli Free Ring Ding™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 9,535	www.webmasterworld.com is the best place for google info, a few workers from goog actually go on there. __________________ ..................

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25-02-2004, 09:14	#3 (permalink)
oqpo Posts: n/a	have you seen any good examples...

25-02-2004, 09:18	#4 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,632	Article and examples: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/imagemap/

25-02-2004, 09:20	#7 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,632	Good point.

25-02-2004, 09:33	#8 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,214	google will not follow links on a page unless it has a pr of 4 or more - so unless the page your sitemap is on has a pr of 4+ then it'll not make any difference anyway, apparently. i find it is more important to get google to rank your site rather than getting it to crawl it. ps - there are some useful php tools out there which will build you a sitemap based on a directory structure, so you don't have to keep re-building one.

25-02-2004, 09:41	#9 (permalink)
oqpo Posts: n/a	I may of explained it worng with the spider bit, i dont know how it works but know some of the tricks that do help. I know a few holiday hotel booking sites used to use it as it gave them a higher ranking.

25-02-2004, 09:44	#10 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,214	used to use it. google changes its algorithms every 3 months or so and the rules change.

25-02-2004, 10:00	#13 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,214	yeah, sorry, it won't follow external links from a pr >4but will index the site. cheers bill.

25-02-2004, 18:08	#14 (permalink)
octane Large Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 249	http://www.purevacations.com/surf/site_map.html is quite logical.

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