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Brown · 06-02-2006, 06:55

hello.

so, your <h1> is an image, lets say, a logo:

would you be allowed to have your <h1> read thus:

<h1>Designer's Talk - Web design forums for designers to website design</h1>

is this bad practice, likely to get a site black listed, or (as i believe) offering a true text alternative representation of the missing graphical element.

how far can you take it?

cheers,.

oli · 06-02-2006, 07:31

Its something I do on sites - I dont go overboard but something like the above would be ok I reckon - not had any trouble so far.

Stickman · 06-02-2006, 08:33

Me too.

mx · 06-02-2006, 08:43

ditto

stickmus · 06-02-2006, 10:23

http://www.456bereastreet.com/archiv..._to_hide_text/

pgo · 07-02-2006, 00:21

I try to avoid having more HTML text than is replaced, but I'm sure a bit of extra text isn't going to incur The Wrath of Google - they seem to have bigger fish to fry. German fish.

roto · 07-02-2006, 00:24

Fish make BMWs?

Limbo · 07-02-2006, 05:46

SE's cannot read images or css so you can use this to fool them as much as you like.

You can even get away with hiding some text - if you place it over a background image of the same colour and specify the background image using css - much like the use of images in headers. I have seen excellent results in google using a few of these black hat tricks. What the SE's don't know can't hurt you

sub · 07-02-2006, 06:24

I'm sure it's only a matter of time until the only kind of sites that Google will index are those that are text filled pap and no substance.

oli · 07-02-2006, 06:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limbo

SE's cannot read images or css so you can use this to fool them as much as you like.

You can even get away with hiding some text - if you place it over a background image of the same colour and specify the background image using css - much like the use of images in headers. I have seen excellent results in google using a few of these black hat tricks. What the SE's don't know can't hurt you

Untill a competitor reports you

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06-02-2006, 07:31	#2 (permalink)
oli Low flying star™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester, England.™ Posts: 10,018	Its something I do on sites - I dont go overboard but something like the above would be ok I reckon - not had any trouble so far.

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Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,572	Me too.

06-02-2006, 08:43	#4 (permalink)
mx fucksocks™ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: in the boosh Posts: 1,632	ditto

06-02-2006, 10:23	#5 (permalink)
stickmus hmmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Yorkuk Posts: 2,127	http://www.456bereastreet.com/archiv..._to_hide_text/

07-02-2006, 00:21	#6 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	I try to avoid having more HTML text than is replaced, but I'm sure a bit of extra text isn't going to incur The Wrath of Google - they seem to have bigger fish to fry. German fish.

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Limbo Another turn. Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,021	SE's cannot read images or css so you can use this to fool them as much as you like. You can even get away with hiding some text - if you place it over a background image of the same colour and specify the background image using css - much like the use of images in headers. I have seen excellent results in google using a few of these black hat tricks. What the SE's don't know can't hurt you

07-02-2006, 06:24	#9 (permalink)
sub Shitcasket™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 4,860	I'm sure it's only a matter of time until the only kind of sites that Google will index are those that are text filled pap and no substance.

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