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stealthcow · 09-09-2005, 09:24

Ive heard varying reports about how well CSS based sites do in search engines.

One side say that because the content is seperated from the design, it means that the page is in a more logical structure and the content is at the top of the page, which translates to better indexing and higher positioning in the search engines

The other side say that because stylesheets are linked to at the top of the page, then the search engines will index the stylesheets first, so it makes no difference to the rankings

If it is the case that stylesheets are indexed, surely you could stuff them full of keywords and get a higher ranking?

SEO is very important, so I want to learn the ins and outs of it..

Brown · 09-09-2005, 09:27

se's don't index stylesheets. who told you that one?

stealthcow · 09-09-2005, 09:33

the grapevine

finbarr · 09-09-2005, 09:41

what? Marvin Gaye?

lyndon · 09-09-2005, 09:57

if the css code is in the document then the search engine bots will read it but disregard it. if you (why wouldn't you???) store it in an external file AFAIK you are OK - same reasoning for external javascript.

typically the bots will read x kb's of the page irrespective of what type of code it is, hence the possible misunderstanding.

sularome · 10-09-2005, 16:27

interesting but when i wrote this stuff in yahoo " mysite.com " i can see one of the .css files to be in the result list. This file is actualy removed from the server before about 2 months but i still can see it in yahoo. I build the new design for the site so i changed totaly everithing and now the new .css files arent in yahoo, but maybe yahoo has tested some changes in the algorithm and rejected it OR not rejected but just don't show the .css files and still concidering them.

Prole · 13-09-2005, 06:48

i was under the impression google was soon to spider CSS as it already does for CGI and external JS files.

lyndon · 13-09-2005, 06:58

whatever google is soon to do is pure guess work from the masses until they actually do it!

It would, however, make total sense for them to do so.

designercss · 21-09-2005, 08:02

css can be good for seo as you can display your important contents at the top of your HTML and put links, graphics and non keyword rich items at the bottom of your code. I don't know much about css however, i think this is done with position:absolute

sularome · 21-09-2005, 09:29

OK, And what if I Disalow the js directory and styles directory from the robots.txt file will they spider it again. :-)

pgo · 24-09-2005, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by designercss

I don't know much about css however

And, yet, your name implies otherwise.

Sorry, just being facetious.

@sularome - No. When a legit spider like Google or Yahoo reads a robots.txt, generally they follow it.

designercss · 24-09-2005, 11:08

lol...I am looking for a css designer

pgo · 24-09-2005, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by designercss

lol...I am looking for a css designer

Hahaha. Gotcha.

OnlineBiz · 02-11-2005, 04:20

There is also the assumption that css can be 'cleaner' than tables from a archtecturla perspective. If the code is cleaner there is more space for the actual content-reading of the page... good for seo

roto · 02-11-2005, 10:14

Welcome, OnlineBiz...good work reviving an old(er) thread with your first post.

Hope you're not an opO™ (one post ONEder)

and no...not oqpo

pixelpyro · 02-11-2005, 10:27

Quote:

There is also the assumption that css can be 'cleaner' than tables from a archtecturla perspective.

I think you'll find that is a fact not an assumption.

sub · 02-11-2005, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ®oto

Hope you're not an opo™ (one post wonder)

Shouldn't that be opw™?

pgo · 02-11-2005, 13:39

Maybe he meant "one post oneder"?

roto · 02-11-2005, 18:00

Brain fart...cleverly edited

damn, you fucks don't miss a thing

martin ewing · 18-11-2005, 07:36

IMO, CSS is the perfect for optimization purposes. SEO also includes elements that are addresssed by external style sheets and good content to code ratio and optimized content with right keywords and links without spamming search engine spiders.

09-09-2005, 09:24	#1 (permalink)
stealthcow knocking heads Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,889	CSS layouts and SEO Ive heard varying reports about how well CSS based sites do in search engines. One side say that because the content is seperated from the design, it means that the page is in a more logical structure and the content is at the top of the page, which translates to better indexing and higher positioning in the search engines The other side say that because stylesheets are linked to at the top of the page, then the search engines will index the stylesheets first, so it makes no difference to the rankings If it is the case that stylesheets are indexed, surely you could stuff them full of keywords and get a higher ranking? SEO is very important, so I want to learn the ins and outs of it..

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Prole Right turn, Clyde Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 377	i was under the impression google was soon to spider CSS as it already does for CGI and external JS files. __________________ everything was great til i got here

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roto This is it - ground zero. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Paper St. Posts: 4,200	Brain fart...cleverly edited damn, you fucks don't miss a thing __________________ fun: HGC v.4 \| last.fm: DT \| me \| *oi! fck u roto: ...via meebo! New to interweb design?** Your friends at dt can help.

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09-09-2005, 09:27	#2 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,211	se's don't index stylesheets. who told you that one?

09-09-2005, 09:33	#3 (permalink)
stealthcow knocking heads Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,889	the grapevine

09-09-2005, 09:41	#4 (permalink)
finbarr what a pile of dogshit? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: london Posts: 2,449	what? Marvin Gaye?

09-09-2005, 09:57	#5 (permalink)
lyndon Venti Macchiato Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 1,156	if the css code is in the document then the search engine bots will read it but disregard it. if you (why wouldn't you???) store it in an external file AFAIK you are OK - same reasoning for external javascript. typically the bots will read x kb's of the page irrespective of what type of code it is, hence the possible misunderstanding.

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sularome Dude seriously?!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Beneath the surface. Posts: 15	interesting but when i wrote this stuff in yahoo " mysite.com " i can see one of the .css files to be in the result list. This file is actualy removed from the server before about 2 months but i still can see it in yahoo. I build the new design for the site so i changed totaly everithing and now the new .css files arent in yahoo, but maybe yahoo has tested some changes in the algorithm and rejected it OR not rejected but just don't show the .css files and still concidering them.

13-09-2005, 06:58	#8 (permalink)
lyndon Venti Macchiato Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 1,156	whatever google is soon to do is pure guess work from the masses until they actually do it! It would, however, make total sense for them to do so.

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designercss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3	css can be good for seo as you can display your important contents at the top of your HTML and put links, graphics and non keyword rich items at the bottom of your code. I don't know much about css however, i think this is done with position:absolute

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sularome Dude seriously?!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Beneath the surface. Posts: 15	OK, And what if I Disalow the js directory and styles directory from the robots.txt file will they spider it again. :-)

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designercss Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3	lol...I am looking for a css designer

02-11-2005, 04:20	#14 (permalink)
OnlineBiz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 5	There is also the assumption that css can be 'cleaner' than tables from a archtecturla perspective. If the code is cleaner there is more space for the actual content-reading of the page... good for seo

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pgo i'm done, son Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,262	Maybe he meant "one post oneder"?

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martin ewing Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32	IMO, CSS is the perfect for optimization purposes. SEO also includes elements that are addresssed by external style sheets and good content to code ratio and optimized content with right keywords and links without spamming search engine spiders.

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