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octane · 12-05-2003, 11:15

I was wondering if anybody has bought any good design books recently. The only recent purchase I have made is that 55 degrees north It has some quality artwork in it.

What have you bought?

dorian · 12-05-2003, 16:00

not really a 'design book' but it's related... I got myself yet another book about symbols:
"Signs, Symbols and Ciphers, Decoding the Message" (Georges Jean, Thames and Hudson)
I collect books about visual symbols, signs, etc... I also find it useful for 'constructing' icons... illustration in general...

lucidcreations · 13-05-2003, 04:47

PEN & MOUSE -Commercial Art and Digital Illustration

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1856692310/ref=sr_aps_books_1_2/026-7876835-2204427

nice insperational book on digital design. I love the Levi ad campaign stuff.

I bought MTIV a while back aswell thats generated a few good ideas.

tomson · 13-05-2003, 05:16

Not bought any for a few months, but i think the last few were:

Rian Hughes - Device. Covers most of his published work.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...700086-9507031

A couple of logo books, both really inspiring

This one covering Buro-Destruct, DED assoc. etc:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...700086-9507031

From Mutabor :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...700086-9507031

And this: Swiss Graphic Design
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...700086-9507031

oli · 13-05-2003, 13:42

http://www.gingkopress.com/_cata/_grap/neut001.htm - have this on order at the moment.

Prole · 13-05-2003, 14:56

there was meant to be a good book by hillman curtis book that's relatively new. making the visible invisible or something like that?

lucidcreations · 14-05-2003, 04:22

Yeah thats the book I mentioned above i bought last year, called MTIV (Making The Invisible Visisble)

Its quite good........

octane · 14-05-2003, 05:21

Everybody on the Cre@teOnline forum used to slate Hillman Curtis. Is it worth getting then?

lucidcreations · 14-05-2003, 06:29

I enjoyed it.
It gave me a lot of confidence because Hilman Curtis came from a non design background like myself and inspired to become better and worry about a piece of paper saying design degree. Also some great stuff about designers block.

I just order these two today aswell:-

Graphic Design Cook Book

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0811831809/ref=ed_soc__4_2/026-7876835-2204427

Logo Designs That Work: Secrets for Sucessful Logo Design

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/156496759X/qid=1052907476/br=3-1/br_lfncs_b_h__1/026-7876835-2204427

Northernboy · 14-05-2003, 10:34

[quote:c0c7f5598e="octane"]Everybody on the Cre@teOnline forum used to slate Hillman Curtis. Is it worth getting then?[/quote:c0c7f5598e]

That's because his "corporate" site is about as accessible as Osama Bin Laden's bedroom!

I think some of the vitriol (from myself amongst others) was a factor of his perceived status as a "web design guru" when a lot of his "web" work is uninspiring, inaccessible, and derivative.

His motion graphics work, on the other hand, is often very innovative and exciting.

Unfortunately for Mr Curtis' standing within our particular clique / bitchy design enclave, the majority of people here-abouts are more interested in the day-to-day reality of being a much less famous web designer and creating interesting and functional web pieces on a significantly more pedestrian budget, rather than indulgent and expensive mega-corporate motion or advertising work, and therefore Mr Curtis has little relevance, whereas the likes of Messers Zeldman, Meyer, and (dare I even utter it) Nielsen may have a little more currency.

Just my 2p as usual...
[size=9:c0c7f5598e]But I am right...[/size:c0c7f5598e]

tomson · 14-05-2003, 11:33

Well said!

lucidcreations · 14-05-2003, 12:23

uh oh, all we need is 'japan' what ever his name to start arguing with tomson.............here we go.

INCOMING!

Mr Fred · 14-05-2003, 12:42

I haven't said a word yet.

unfortunately i agree 100% with both northernboy and tomson

Hillman curtis is more overated than tim fucking henman and manc fuckers utd

mike

oli · 14-05-2003, 12:45

[quote:4fffe1a0d6]manc fuckers utd [/quote:4fffe1a0d6] overrated ? Best in England u mean.

I dont understand why the text on his site is gifs ???? anyone know ?

Mr Fred · 14-05-2003, 12:47

because his head is so far up his own arse that the last time he saw the normal world ( pre 92 ) every website was laid up like this

tomson · 14-05-2003, 13:37

[quote:7c6d017e00="japanmik"]I haven't said a word yet.

unfortunately i agree 100% with both northernboy and tomson

[/quote:7c6d017e00]

You're going soft in your old age

Mr Fred · 15-05-2003, 03:39

lucidcreations · 15-05-2003, 04:37

The books still good, even though i don't agree with cuttings corners during content layout by using gifs (not mentioned in the book by the way).

The books about attitude and inspiration its really good.

12-05-2003, 11:15	#1 (permalink)
octane Large Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 249	Design books I was wondering if anybody has bought any good design books recently. The only recent purchase I have made is that 55 degrees north It has some quality artwork in it. What have you bought?

12-05-2003, 16:00	#2 (permalink)
dorian i do lines Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland/Denmark Posts: 3,232	not really a 'design book' but it's related... I got myself yet another book about symbols: "Signs, Symbols and Ciphers, Decoding the Message" (Georges Jean, Thames and Hudson) I collect books about visual symbols, signs, etc... I also find it useful for 'constructing' icons... illustration in general... __________________ ...

13-05-2003, 04:47	#3 (permalink)
lucidcreations Part of the 3 out of 4 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: cheshire Posts: 2,081	PEN & MOUSE -Commercial Art and Digital Illustration http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1856692310/ref=sr_aps_books_1_2/026-7876835-2204427 nice insperational book on digital design. I love the Levi ad campaign stuff. I bought MTIV a while back aswell thats generated a few good ideas. __________________ Jase

13-05-2003, 13:42	#5 (permalink)
oli Free Ring Ding™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 9,502	http://www.gingkopress.com/_cata/_grap/neut001.htm - have this on order at the moment. __________________ ..................

13-05-2003, 14:56	#6 (permalink)
Prole Right turn, Clyde Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 377	there was meant to be a good book by hillman curtis book that's relatively new. making the visible invisible or something like that? __________________ everything was great til i got here

13-05-2003, 05:16	#4 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	Not bought any for a few months, but i think the last few were: Rian Hughes - Device. Covers most of his published work. http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...700086-9507031 A couple of logo books, both really inspiring This one covering Buro-Destruct, DED assoc. etc: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...700086-9507031 From Mutabor : http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...700086-9507031 And this: Swiss Graphic Design http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...700086-9507031

14-05-2003, 04:22	#7 (permalink)
lucidcreations Part of the 3 out of 4 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: cheshire Posts: 2,081	Yeah thats the book I mentioned above i bought last year, called MTIV (Making The Invisible Visisble) Its quite good........ __________________ Jase

14-05-2003, 05:21	#8 (permalink)
octane Large Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 249	Everybody on the Cre@teOnline forum used to slate Hillman Curtis. Is it worth getting then?

14-05-2003, 06:29	#9 (permalink)
lucidcreations Part of the 3 out of 4 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: cheshire Posts: 2,081	I enjoyed it. It gave me a lot of confidence because Hilman Curtis came from a non design background like myself and inspired to become better and worry about a piece of paper saying design degree. Also some great stuff about designers block. I just order these two today aswell:- Graphic Design Cook Book http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0811831809/ref=ed_soc__4_2/026-7876835-2204427 Logo Designs That Work: Secrets for Sucessful Logo Design http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/156496759X/qid=1052907476/br=3-1/br_lfncs_b_h__1/026-7876835-2204427 __________________ Jase

14-05-2003, 10:34	#10 (permalink)
Northernboy Born to be mild Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: St Neots Posts: 21	[quote:c0c7f5598e="octane"]Everybody on the Cre@teOnline forum used to slate Hillman Curtis. Is it worth getting then?[/quote:c0c7f5598e] That's because his "corporate" site is about as accessible as Osama Bin Laden's bedroom! I think some of the vitriol (from myself amongst others) was a factor of his perceived status as a "web design guru" when a lot of his "web" work is uninspiring, inaccessible, and derivative. His motion graphics work, on the other hand, is often very innovative and exciting. Unfortunately for Mr Curtis' standing within our particular clique / bitchy design enclave, the majority of people here-abouts are more interested in the day-to-day reality of being a much less famous web designer and creating interesting and functional web pieces on a significantly more pedestrian budget, rather than indulgent and expensive mega-corporate motion or advertising work, and therefore Mr Curtis has little relevance, whereas the likes of Messers Zeldman, Meyer, and (dare I even utter it) Nielsen may have a little more currency. Just my 2p as usual... [size=9:c0c7f5598e]But I am right...[/size:c0c7f5598e]

14-05-2003, 11:33	#11 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	Well said!

14-05-2003, 12:23	#12 (permalink)
lucidcreations Part of the 3 out of 4 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: cheshire Posts: 2,081	uh oh, all we need is 'japan' what ever his name to start arguing with tomson.............here we go. INCOMING! __________________ Jase

14-05-2003, 12:42	#13 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,263	I haven't said a word yet. unfortunately i agree 100% with both northernboy and tomson Hillman curtis is more overated than tim fucking henman and manc fuckers utd mike

14-05-2003, 12:45	#14 (permalink)
oli Free Ring Ding™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 9,502	[quote:4fffe1a0d6]manc fuckers utd [/quote:4fffe1a0d6] overrated ? Best in England u mean. I dont understand why the text on his site is gifs ???? anyone know ? __________________ ..................

14-05-2003, 12:47	#15 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,263	because his head is so far up his own arse that the last time he saw the normal world ( pre 92 ) every website was laid up like this

14-05-2003, 13:37	#16 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	[quote:7c6d017e00="japanmik"]I haven't said a word yet. unfortunately i agree 100% with both northernboy and tomson [/quote:7c6d017e00] You're going soft in your old age

15-05-2003, 03:39	#17 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,263

15-05-2003, 04:37	#18 (permalink)
lucidcreations Part of the 3 out of 4 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: cheshire Posts: 2,081	The books still good, even though i don't agree with cuttings corners during content layout by using gifs (not mentioned in the book by the way). The books about attitude and inspiration its really good. __________________ Jase

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