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squire2k · 07-03-2006, 16:51

ok few questions if anyone can help...? i've got an epson R1800

1. When i print from quark, eps's come out in some kind of preview pixelated mode
2. Most of the text doesn't print at all
3. Is it true that if i don't flatten TIFF files it could cause problem, if so, what will happen?
4. Shall i give up and use InDesign

I've been reading about PostScript or something, god knows, doesn't seem to be an idiots guide anywhere to help me out (as i am an idiot), can anyone suggest anything?

Thanks in advance...

sub · 07-03-2006, 18:04

1. Is that a postscript printer?
2. Have you set the text in the EPS file? (refer to above).
3. If your layered TIFFs separate correctly then I would assume they are okay to use.
4. I would probably read up on the basics of Quark before giving up and switching to InDesign - especially since you would have already spent nion a grand for the software(?)

sub · 07-03-2006, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by squire2k

can anyone suggest anything?

Also, quick search on Google found the following article

rjdugan · 07-03-2006, 20:11

have you tried exporting a pdf - you should have more luck with that...
And I'm pretty sure you can't import layered files into Quark and expect them to print... I could be wrong but I think that's a feature touted in Quark 7.

rjdugan · 07-03-2006, 20:24

create the simplest doc possible... reduce as many variables as possible. You're printing from a very simple set-up. Anything you can flatten or even export as a tiff and import into Quark (with a clipping mask if you need a transparent background) is going to make things easier. Those little epson's have trouble with EPS/vector files.
Check all your printing preferences-make sure everything is set at high resolution output. Make sure OPI includes EPS images box is checked in the printing options.

squire2k · 08-03-2006, 03:53

hi cheers for your help... still not sure why i can't just press file > print and it comes out of my printer lol... seems bizarre you have to know how to code in postcript to be able to do it...(or whatever its for) you spend a grand on quark for professional print jobs, but you can't print anything...

sorry i know im obviously thick :-)

im pretty sure the epson r1800 isnt postcript, i've been reading about GhostScript?? i installed it but nothing happened :-) anyone use it?

sub · 08-03-2006, 05:30

You need a postscript printer to print eps vector graphics - you don't need to know how to code it!
As rjdugan said, export the file as a PDF and print from that, or buy a laser printer.

neon · 08-03-2006, 07:34

I have an A3+ Epson printer thats not postscript. I've been told you can download printer drives/rips? that can solve the problem?

stickmus · 08-03-2006, 09:34

software rips can solve the problem, but it's basically doing a similar job to pdf then print (interpreting the postcript information), and it'll cost you. I had mixed results with an Epson one a while back, bought it for colour matching as much as anything, but they didn't support that for my printer. Cocks.

neon · 08-03-2006, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickmus

software rips can solve the problem, but it's basically doing a similar job to pdf then print (interpreting the postcript information), and it'll cost you. I had mixed results with an Epson one a while back, bought it for colour matching as much as anything, but they didn't support that for my printer. Cocks.

Stickmus - did you stick with your Epsom? or get a different printer in the end?

rjdugan · 09-03-2006, 01:03

You spend a grand on Quark for exactly what you said... 'professional print jobs' :-)
The average professional printer set-up for even just printing color flats (used for proofing) cost around 24x what you probably paid for your epson... :-)
Just for the US market, there are a few dozen programs commonly used by the average home user, on two different platforms, all constantly being updated, and software developers... well they're all over the place. There are quite a few variables that go into making the home printer streamline or even just functional. Now take into account the number of markets Epson is producing for and the incredible speed with which their industry is advancing... my point being: make your docs as simple as possible. and don't expect too much out of your lil' epson... it's tryin the best it can. :-)!

rjdugan · 09-03-2006, 01:10

and not to mention the most complex of all the considered variables, being the actual methods of execution -- production techniques (seemingly infinite), extensions, multi-application workflow and doc format... with almost nothing clearly defined by a set protocol... it really is kinda crazy.

squire2k · 09-03-2006, 04:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by subcircle

You need a postscript printer to print eps vector graphics

how come vector gfx print fine from photoshop and illustrator, but quark can't?

it's a minefield all this print malarky ;-)

squire2k · 09-03-2006, 04:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickmus

software rips can solve the problem, but it's basically doing a similar job to pdf then print

i tried this but the colour was soooooo far off it was untrue.

stickmus · 09-03-2006, 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by squire boy

i tried this but the colour was soooooo far off it was untrue.

How are you checking your colours? Have you set your monitor up properly? What settings have you got for colour management in the printer drivers?

Quote:

Originally Posted by neon

Stickmus - did you stick with your Epsom? or get a different printer in the end?

Yeah, we didn't have the money to invest in anything else. You learn to work with what you've got.

davidvesty · 12-04-2006, 09:17

http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/

Grant · 21-07-2006, 10:14

Click OPI replacement off

07-03-2006, 16:51	#1 (permalink)
squire2k Pete Vinnicombe Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 67	quark nightmare ok few questions if anyone can help...? i've got an epson R1800 1. When i print from quark, eps's come out in some kind of preview pixelated mode 2. Most of the text doesn't print at all 3. Is it true that if i don't flatten TIFF files it could cause problem, if so, what will happen? 4. Shall i give up and use InDesign I've been reading about PostScript or something, god knows, doesn't seem to be an idiots guide anywhere to help me out (as i am an idiot), can anyone suggest anything? Thanks in advance...

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squire2k Pete Vinnicombe Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 67	hi cheers for your help... still not sure why i can't just press file > print and it comes out of my printer lol... seems bizarre you have to know how to code in postcript to be able to do it...(or whatever its for) you spend a grand on quark for professional print jobs, but you can't print anything... sorry i know im obviously thick :-) im pretty sure the epson r1800 isnt postcript, i've been reading about GhostScript?? i installed it but nothing happened :-) anyone use it? Last edited by squire2k : 08-03-2006 at 04:13.

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07-03-2006, 18:04	#2 (permalink)
sub Shitcasket™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 4,837	1. Is that a postscript printer? 2. Have you set the text in the EPS file? (refer to above). 3. If your layered TIFFs separate correctly then I would assume they are okay to use. 4. I would probably read up on the basics of Quark before giving up and switching to InDesign - especially since you would have already spent nion a grand for the software(?)

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rjdugan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: chicago»wicker park Posts: 168	have you tried exporting a pdf - you should have more luck with that... And I'm pretty sure you can't import layered files into Quark and expect them to print... I could be wrong but I think that's a feature touted in Quark 7.

07-03-2006, 20:24	#5 (permalink)
rjdugan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: chicago»wicker park Posts: 168	create the simplest doc possible... reduce as many variables as possible. You're printing from a very simple set-up. Anything you can flatten or even export as a tiff and import into Quark (with a clipping mask if you need a transparent background) is going to make things easier. Those little epson's have trouble with EPS/vector files. Check all your printing preferences-make sure everything is set at high resolution output. Make sure OPI includes EPS images box is checked in the printing options.

08-03-2006, 05:30	#7 (permalink)
sub Shitcasket™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 4,837	You need a postscript printer to print eps vector graphics - you don't need to know how to code it! As rjdugan said, export the file as a PDF and print from that, or buy a laser printer.

08-03-2006, 07:34	#8 (permalink)
neon Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 368	I have an A3+ Epson printer thats not postscript. I've been told you can download printer drives/rips? that can solve the problem?

08-03-2006, 09:34	#9 (permalink)
stickmus hmmm... Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Yorkuk Posts: 2,127	software rips can solve the problem, but it's basically doing a similar job to pdf then print (interpreting the postcript information), and it'll cost you. I had mixed results with an Epson one a while back, bought it for colour matching as much as anything, but they didn't support that for my printer. Cocks.

09-03-2006, 01:03	#11 (permalink)
rjdugan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: chicago»wicker park Posts: 168	You spend a grand on Quark for exactly what you said... 'professional print jobs' :-) The average professional printer set-up for even just printing color flats (used for proofing) cost around 24x what you probably paid for your epson... :-) Just for the US market, there are a few dozen programs commonly used by the average home user, on two different platforms, all constantly being updated, and software developers... well they're all over the place. There are quite a few variables that go into making the home printer streamline or even just functional. Now take into account the number of markets Epson is producing for and the incredible speed with which their industry is advancing... my point being: make your docs as simple as possible. and don't expect too much out of your lil' epson... it's tryin the best it can. :-)!

09-03-2006, 01:10	#12 (permalink)
rjdugan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: chicago»wicker park Posts: 168	and not to mention the most complex of all the considered variables, being the actual methods of execution -- production techniques (seemingly infinite), extensions, multi-application workflow and doc format... with almost nothing clearly defined by a set protocol... it really is kinda crazy.

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davidvesty MrMulder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Preston Posts: 124	http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/

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Grant Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 68	Click OPI replacement off

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