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Old 28-01-2008, 00:07   #21 (permalink)
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Err, you are the original poster. I didn't make stupid comments I offered some constructive criticism -



- if you aren't up for critique then don't post asking for it. I didn't once suggest that you were a professional photographer or that you claimed to be so. Choose my words? Nah, you're not worth the effort.

Keep doing exactly what you are doing as you are clearly happy with your shots and photography has nothing to do with sharing your images for the enjoyment of others.

Yes I am the original poster, thats the point.

I want critisizm and am totally fine with it, but I didnt like the way you said it and the words you used, that was not critisizm and seemed more like someone talking trash. So please in future if you reply to my topics or posts talk normally, those words dont make you seem cool anyway.

I know what photography is, and again for the last time I never said that I am professional photographer, I said I want to learn photography. I do like those images, though I know that I could do much better images as well.
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Old 28-01-2008, 01:27   #22 (permalink)
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I am thinking to learn professional photography, however it will be more like a hobby for the most part and maybe an extra income on the side. NLD is the name of my company which stands for New Level Designs, like I said I am mainly into web design and computer technology, photography would be just something Id like to learn and try out. I made the watermark in several minutes in Photoshop just to havea watermark, so it is not final but I like it, why exactly do you not like about it?

It's not quite transparent enough. Watermarks work best when you don't really notice them even though they're clearly there. Also, the text is all skewed and distorted so your type looks quite out of proportion, which makes things visually uneasy. Again, I think you should be aiming for something that's a little more design 'neutral', so that you let your photos take the limelight.
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Old 28-01-2008, 02:35   #23 (permalink)
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You said that you want to learn 'professional photography', but I think this is something of a misnomer. You can learn photographic techniques by all means, but whether or not you become professional will depend on how good you are at it. No offense, but at the moment there's really not much to distinguish your snaps from any holiday photos taken by the average tourist with their pocket finepix compact. I think on the whole you can see signs, even at an early hobbyist stage, that someone has the potential to achieve greatness in whatever artistic field they choose. But I don't see any of that in your work. I'm not sure this goal is a realistic one for you.

But by all means go ahead and prove me wrong.
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Old 28-01-2008, 03:49   #24 (permalink)
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illvibe, Thanks for comment/tip. Indeed I should have made it somewhat transperant. I know that watermarks should be transperant just at the time I wasn't really thinking about that and didn't spend much time on it.

Hunch, What you said is just stupid. Usually people can't make something perfect or at professional level in their first try, its about people who have plans and are good at thinking and imagining that are successful, ones that understand things in life.
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Old 28-01-2008, 05:33   #25 (permalink)
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So have you taken any more pix with you snazzy camera we can look at? We've already seen the treeline, hotel in the shade etc. You ought to get yourself a space on Flickr and post everything which bears seeing more than five times there.
And your "watermark" is too big and too ugly. It's called a watermark because proper ones look like a transparent imprint on the photo. And slanting letters to 30 degrees is a very ugly thing to do.
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Old 28-01-2008, 05:38   #26 (permalink)
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How does one 'meet photography' anyway?
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Old 28-01-2008, 06:00   #27 (permalink)
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Old 28-01-2008, 07:01   #28 (permalink)
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Some constructive criticism! I'm not going to rip you apart, just suggest for each photo what you could have done to make it better...

1) Is the photo of the bird, or sky, or hills? The bird is too far away so ignore it. The sky has no interest, so come back on a day when there is some high cloud. Also come back nearer to sunset. Otherwise/also, point the camera down and focus on the interest, which is the mountains.

2) The photo is of the hotel but you have cut the bottom of the hotel out. Also hotel is in shadow. To improve, step back or select wider angle lens, come back when the sun is the other side (dawn/sunset?).

3) Photo is of the bird? Bird is blurred and too far away. Top two thirds of photo is just blue with no interest, all parts of a photo should have value so if the sky is boring then come back when it is more interesting or aim downwards and cut it out of photo. Come back sunset/dawn.

4) Again, no interest in sky. Need to step back or wider angle, get the whole tree in, include some background interest on left hand side.

5) Owl - technically you need to turn the onboard flash off, and get an external flash unit and bounce it off the ceiling or fit diffuser. If you were taking this sort of photo as a product shoot then you also need to change the background. You can buy 'light tents' which provide less distracting backgrounds when focusing on a product.

To generally improve your photography read some books on 'light' and 'composition'.

To take photos of birds, you will need a bigger lens, don't know what camera you have but as a Nikon user I'd suggest something like the 70-300VR as a good compromise (not too heavy, relatively cheap, capable of usable photos with practice).
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Old 28-01-2008, 07:49   #29 (permalink)
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Hunch, What you said is just stupid. Usually people can't make something perfect or at professional level in their first try, its about people who have plans and are good at thinking and imagining that are successful, ones that understand things in life.

Go back and read what I said again. Seeing what you want to see, rather than what's really there, is a crippling handicap if you want to be a photographer.
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Old 28-01-2008, 08:18   #30 (permalink)
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Yes I am the original poster, thats the point.

I want critisizm and am totally fine with it, but I didnt like the way you said it and the words you used, that was not critisizm and seemed more like someone talking trash. So please in future if you reply to my topics or posts talk normally, those words dont make you seem cool anyway.

I know what photography is, and again for the last time I never said that I am professional photographer, I said I want to learn photography. I do like those images, though I know that I could do much better images as well.

You are funny. Twice you reiterate the fact that you are not a professional photographer despite it being so obviously apparent from your images and despite the fact that I never said that you were trying to be.

Just because you are not professional doesn't mean your photos should be sub-par though does it?

Take a look at Composition Photo Workshop by Blue Fier and Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson (check out Peterson's Web site too.

Not all criticism will be politely worded but if it has useful advice take it on board or spend your life in ignorance.
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:59   #31 (permalink)
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I'd have to agree with Limo I'm afraid. Just keep going out there and take photos of what catches your eye. Not what you think others might like.
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Old 04-02-2008, 20:37   #32 (permalink)
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Old 05-02-2008, 00:12   #33 (permalink)
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Hmmmm. I don't know chips. I like what he's done with the hard light on the owl. Sometimes I feel like the owl myself. Frozen in the hard light...nowhere to go...

ok, fine...it stinks.
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Old 05-02-2008, 06:00   #34 (permalink)
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:16   #35 (permalink)
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Just read the whole thread, what a funny guy he is
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Old 28-03-2008, 01:51   #36 (permalink)
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No, i really like photography and i want to learn it but mostly i never found time to learn it so time prob is the main reason for it that i could not learn photography.
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Old 17-06-2008, 14:09   #37 (permalink)
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your top (blue) photographs really resemeble a design element.... i could certainly see them functioning as a postcard or an element on a website but suppose i dont get much from the "photgraphy" itself.... the image quality is good though, at least.

it all depends on what you're trying to get across, you know? there are so many different ways to take photographs and i can see you have design influeces.
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Old 17-06-2008, 14:12   #38 (permalink)
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(though i do agree the watermark doesn't seem that it should be there, and maybe you should figure out what you want to photograph and why rather than wanting to be "professional" as a "hobby")
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Old 18-06-2008, 02:12   #39 (permalink)
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lunartwylyght - If this thread were real life, you'd be standing in an empty room with the lights off.
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