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Bill Posters · 08-09-2003, 05:41

Fwiw, I'm lifted too thanks to the arrival of my new biz stationery.
Perhaps now I should get my ar*e in gear and finish the fekn website.
(now if only I can stop trying out a million and one navigation ideas I may actually get somewhere.)

Full steam ahead for you too, eh Mik?

Mr Fred · 08-09-2003, 06:00

a couple of more weeks for us - getting incubator scheme to sort out funds / grants for stationary, website etc. - which is nice

also getting business plans, sales forecast. figures done which is somewaht tedious but essential for funding

We are also waiting on gov inclusion on tender list so hopefully then full steam

not paying for anything i dont have to.

Brown · 08-09-2003, 12:01

back on topic ::

stanley clarke, al di meola, jean luc ponty - the rite of strings

tomson · 08-09-2003, 12:09

pointless, relentless, poorly written crap on radio 1.

Bill Posters · 08-09-2003, 12:16

[ot]

Now I'm not a violent man by nature, but I personally would take great delight in beating seven shades of the sh*t out of Chris Moyles (R1 DJ).

How anyone can even stand to be in his company without twatting the bloke in the head is beyond me.

[/ot]

tomson · 08-09-2003, 12:19

too fucking right - the bloke is an arse. A fat one at that.

Mr Fred · 08-09-2003, 12:25

nothing wrong with fat blokes

tomson · 08-09-2003, 12:26

i was hoping to keep sexual preferences out of this mik

Brown · 08-09-2003, 12:56

me'shelle ndegeOcello - plantation lullabies - bird with a bass, bring it on

Bill Posters · 08-09-2003, 15:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Brown
me'shelle ndegeOcello - plantation lullabies - bird with a bass, bring it on

Just the one? Pah! Bloody amateur!!

tomson · 08-09-2003, 15:20

are you sure they're not bream?

Bill Posters · 08-09-2003, 15:51

Absolutely.
(check the root domain of the img url)

My jokes may be lame, but they're technically perfect.

tomson · 08-09-2003, 17:12

my humble apologies for doubting you billy boy

Bill Posters · 08-09-2003, 17:50

<backontopic />

Squarepusher - Feed Me Wierd Things

tomson · 09-09-2003, 05:54

i was just watching chris cunninghams video for Come On My Selector last night...a work of art

Bill Posters · 09-09-2003, 06:23

I actually think that was one of his weakest pieces, especially when placed next to his work for Björk, Aphex Twin and Autechre.

Mind you, I also feel that Come On My Selector is one of Squarepusher's weaker moments.
(I have a soft spot for 'Tundra')

tomson · 09-09-2003, 07:02

hmmm now i'd definitely disagree with you there - the Selector video works so tightly with the music, something that mr C himself has admitted he has been striving for throughout his career. I think it was in a Creative Review piece on it they asked - what came first, the video or the track?_Kinda sums it up i feel. The Bjork vid pales into comparison imo.

As for weakest pieces - His Jesus Jones vid has gotta be a contender.

Cant say i ever got into squarepusher tho.

Stickman · 09-09-2003, 07:18

Excuse my memory - but is that the one with the dog?

tomson · 09-09-2003, 07:22

it certainly is.

Bill Posters · 09-09-2003, 07:24

I just found the video to look too much like it was done by someone totally new to direction, by which I mean that it lacked visual ideas.
The quick cuts do work with the track, but then locking the direction concept and shot durations so rigidly to that kind of rapid, cut-up music isn't exactly thinking outside the box.

I feel that more imagination went into the other vids I mentioned and went a bit further than simply having a fat, bald bloke chasing a young girl and a dog around a stylistically non-descript building with some token trendwhore 'pooter graphics thrown in for good measure.
A feeble attempt at a Manga reference that simply doesn't work conceptually or visually, imho.

That being said, I'm no major fan of Squarepusher either.
I feel the D'n'B* ruined some good freeform jazz at the time and only makes their music sound more dated now.
Just albums I picked up along the way.
...though they do have their moments (re: Tundra)

Perhaps Cunningham works best when he's working with musicians that have their own independance and 'eccentricities'.

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08-09-2003, 05:41	#221 (permalink)
Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,901	Fwiw, I'm lifted too thanks to the arrival of my new biz stationery. Perhaps now I should get my ar*e in gear and finish the fekn website. (now if only I can stop trying out a million and one navigation ideas I may actually get somewhere.) Full steam ahead for you too, eh Mik?

08-09-2003, 06:00	#222 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,276	a couple of more weeks for us - getting incubator scheme to sort out funds / grants for stationary, website etc. - which is nice also getting business plans, sales forecast. figures done which is somewaht tedious but essential for funding We are also waiting on gov inclusion on tender list so hopefully then full steam not paying for anything i dont have to.

08-09-2003, 12:01	#223 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,214	back on topic :: stanley clarke, al di meola, jean luc ponty - the rite of strings

08-09-2003, 12:09	#224 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Class, Green Belt Heaven Posts: 3,161	pointless, relentless, poorly written crap on radio 1.

08-09-2003, 12:16	#225 (permalink)
Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,901	[ot] Now I'm not a violent man by nature, but I personally would take great delight in beating seven shades of the sh*t out of Chris Moyles (R1 DJ). How anyone can even stand to be in his company without twatting the bloke in the head is beyond me. [/ot]

08-09-2003, 12:19	#226 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Class, Green Belt Heaven Posts: 3,161	too fucking right - the bloke is an arse. A fat one at that.

08-09-2003, 12:25	#227 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,276	nothing wrong with fat blokes

08-09-2003, 12:26	#228 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Class, Green Belt Heaven Posts: 3,161	i was hoping to keep sexual preferences out of this mik

08-09-2003, 12:56	#229 (permalink)
Brown volkswagen yellow & gold Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: london, england. Posts: 6,214	me'shelle ndegeOcello - plantation lullabies - bird with a bass, bring it on

08-09-2003, 15:20	#231 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Class, Green Belt Heaven Posts: 3,161	are you sure they're not bream?

08-09-2003, 15:51	#232 (permalink)
Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,901	Absolutely. (check the root domain of the img url) My jokes may be lame, but they're technically perfect.

08-09-2003, 17:12	#233 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Class, Green Belt Heaven Posts: 3,161	my humble apologies for doubting you billy boy

08-09-2003, 17:50	#234 (permalink)
Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,901	<backontopic /> Squarepusher - Feed Me Wierd Things

09-09-2003, 05:54	#235 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Class, Green Belt Heaven Posts: 3,161	i was just watching chris cunninghams video for Come On My Selector last night...a work of art

09-09-2003, 06:23	#236 (permalink)
Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,901	I actually think that was one of his weakest pieces, especially when placed next to his work for Björk, Aphex Twin and Autechre. Mind you, I also feel that Come On My Selector is one of Squarepusher's weaker moments. (I have a soft spot for 'Tundra')

09-09-2003, 07:02	#237 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Class, Green Belt Heaven Posts: 3,161	hmmm now i'd definitely disagree with you there - the Selector video works so tightly with the music, something that mr C himself has admitted he has been striving for throughout his career. I think it was in a Creative Review piece on it they asked - what came first, the video or the track?_Kinda sums it up i feel. The Bjork vid pales into comparison imo. As for weakest pieces - His Jesus Jones vid has gotta be a contender. Cant say i ever got into squarepusher tho.

09-09-2003, 07:18	#238 (permalink)
Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,632	Excuse my memory - but is that the one with the dog?

09-09-2003, 07:22	#239 (permalink)
tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle Class, Green Belt Heaven Posts: 3,161	it certainly is.

09-09-2003, 07:24	#240 (permalink)
Bill Posters trouble free and loverlee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: YooKay Posts: 2,901	I just found the video to look too much like it was done by someone totally new to direction, by which I mean that it lacked visual ideas. The quick cuts do work with the track, but then locking the direction concept and shot durations so rigidly to that kind of rapid, cut-up music isn't exactly thinking outside the box. I feel that more imagination went into the other vids I mentioned and went a bit further than simply having a fat, bald bloke chasing a young girl and a dog around a stylistically non-descript building with some token trendwhore 'pooter graphics thrown in for good measure. A feeble attempt at a Manga reference that simply doesn't work conceptually or visually, imho. That being said, I'm no major fan of Squarepusher either. I feel the D'n'B* ruined some good freeform jazz at the time and only makes their music sound more dated now. Just albums I picked up along the way. ...though they do have their moments (re: Tundra) Perhaps Cunningham works best when he's working with musicians that have their own independance and 'eccentricities'.

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