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steveb · 01-07-2007, 11:26

Can this be true? Over the past twenty years we've heard rap degenerate from an interesting side-shoot of house/techno which was still recognizable as mainstream music to the present toneless, ultra-repetitive monotony.

Sales of rap albums have slumped in the United States, with many listeners tiring of the genre's sexism, racism, materialism and violence. Not one rap album made the top ten of US bestsellers in 2006, with overall sales down 33 per cent. "The public has made a choice," said iconic rapper KRS-One. (Sunday Telegraph)

I hope something even more mind-numbing isn't replacing it.

freelancr · 01-07-2007, 12:15

Well they say Rap sales are down, but is that Hip Hop or R&B? Strangely enough I like Hip Hop music, listening to Dr Dre 2001, but can't stand the new wave of R&B bling bling wannabes.

Intrinzik.v2 · 01-07-2007, 22:47

The reason Hip-Hop sales are down is because its possible for people to pick and choose which songs they want to buy instead of having to buy the whole album. Artist continue to put out cd's with 3-4 good singles on it and the rest are just there as fillers. It's not becuase of sexism, rascism etc...

Neil@WebExpress · 29-08-2007, 15:04

Agree with above, sexism & racism has diddly squat to do with it. It's more indicative of trends in the music industry as a whole.

pgo · 29-08-2007, 15:48

It's because popular rap (50 Cent, and the like) are shit.

There's plenty of good hip-hop out there, though. Been listening to Mos Def lately, myself.

proc355 · 29-08-2007, 16:15

thank fuck, whining bastards.

Intrinzik.v2 · 30-08-2007, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgo

It's because popular rap (50 Cent, and the like) are shit.

There's plenty of good hip-hop out there, though. Been listening to Mos Def lately, myself.

Just bought the Blackstar (Mos Def & Talib Kweli) cd today; havent given it a proper listening but ive heard good things about it.

Check out:

MySpace.com - Free Speech - Los Angeles - Hip Hop / Rap - www.myspace.com/freespeech

He's a hip-hop artist and most of his stuff is available free for download; Laffy Taffy Rots your teeth is definatly worth a download and he just came out with another cd on tuesday, The Brekfast Club EP; has a couple good songs on it but I havent given it a good listening yet.

Larixk · 30-08-2007, 14:29

black star is a classic, one of the best albums in my collection, make sure you check out the Reflection Eternal album as well.

rap/hip-hop has blown up like crazy the past year around here. There was always quite some interest in the commercial mainstream american rappers like dre, snoop and such but now the local dutch-rapping cats are getting some serious airplay. All the local chavs have finally picked up on some of the music I've been listening to for the past five years.

There are some real gems in the american underground, still. Names like El-P, Atmosphere, most of the Stones Throw label and MF Doom are shit hot, innovative, experimental and fresh. Far from the unintelligent monotonous blingbling-yeeaah bullshit that's been out in the mainstream scene.

sub · 30-08-2007, 14:33

It's all about the Itchy Trigger Finger Niggas

Dusteh · 30-08-2007, 16:53

Not sure about the US, but the UK is making its own in the form of Grime now, no need for the American import. Damned sight better it is too, I much prefer to listen to someone tell me about how they will merk me down Tescos than pop a cap in my ass fo' shizzle.

pat · 30-08-2007, 17:17

I have found some Grime wonders, a grime remix of Coldplay - spun a web one being the best so far. Common is good rap too, intelligent. Can't go far wrong with ATCQ really though, or Hieroglyphics. Pharcyde are amazing alzo.

nini · 30-08-2007, 19:01

Hip Hop died in '96

sleepingfish · 31-08-2007, 05:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by sub

It's all about the Itchy Trigger Finger Niggas

Haha, skills.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pat

Common is good rap too, intelligent.

Liking that tune he did with Lilly Allen.

pat · 31-08-2007, 05:38

sub · 31-08-2007, 05:46

East coast flavor beat. It's the Itchy's innit.

@pat: What the fuck?

pat · 31-08-2007, 05:55

hahaha nice.

@sub: only the finest from britain's emerging grime scene. Brown Bear is a bit good:

top_buzz · 31-08-2007, 10:33

MF Doom / Viktor Vaughn is shit hot

YouTube - Viktor Vaughn-Mr. Clean

YouTube - MF Doom - Dead Bent High Quality

Intrinzik.v2 · 31-08-2007, 17:48

^^ Shit like that is what puts me to sleep; Ive never been a fan of MF Doom...

Good Shit right there...

Anxious · 31-08-2007, 17:51

Best rapper in the world.

Business.

raven200 · 14-09-2007, 17:31

cool videos

01-07-2007, 11:26	#1 (permalink)
steveb 389 ppm and rising Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Järvenpää, Finland Posts: 4,151	Rap on the wane Can this be true? Over the past twenty years we've heard rap degenerate from an interesting side-shoot of house/techno which was still recognizable as mainstream music to the present toneless, ultra-repetitive monotony. Sales of rap albums have slumped in the United States, with many listeners tiring of the genre's sexism, racism, materialism and violence. Not one rap album made the top ten of US bestsellers in 2006, with overall sales down 33 per cent. "The public has made a choice," said iconic rapper KRS-One. (Sunday Telegraph) I hope something even more mind-numbing isn't replacing it. __________________ My free fonts www.utfi.net

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Larixk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Utrecht, Netherlands Posts: 933	black star is a classic, one of the best albums in my collection, make sure you check out the Reflection Eternal album as well. rap/hip-hop has blown up like crazy the past year around here. There was always quite some interest in the commercial mainstream american rappers like dre, snoop and such but now the local dutch-rapping cats are getting some serious airplay. All the local chavs have finally picked up on some of the music I've been listening to for the past five years. There are some real gems in the american underground, still. Names like El-P, Atmosphere, most of the Stones Throw label and MF Doom are shit hot, innovative, experimental and fresh. Far from the unintelligent monotonous blingbling-yeeaah bullshit that's been out in the mainstream scene. __________________

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30-08-2007, 16:53	#10 (permalink)
Dusteh Sir digby chicken caesar Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4,054	Not sure about the US, but the UK is making its own in the form of Grime now, no need for the American import. Damned sight better it is too, I much prefer to listen to someone tell me about how they will merk me down Tescos than pop a cap in my ass fo' shizzle. __________________ unconsolidated isoparms

01-07-2007, 12:15	#2 (permalink)
freelancr Web Developer Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,007	Well they say Rap sales are down, but is that Hip Hop or R&B? Strangely enough I like Hip Hop music, listening to Dr Dre 2001, but can't stand the new wave of R&B bling bling wannabes.

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Intrinzik.v2 NeverFuckWithoutaRubber Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Monticello In Posts: 259	The reason Hip-Hop sales are down is because its possible for people to pick and choose which songs they want to buy instead of having to buy the whole album. Artist continue to put out cd's with 3-4 good singles on it and the rest are just there as fillers. It's not becuase of sexism, rascism etc...

29-08-2007, 15:04	#4 (permalink)
Neil@WebExpress Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 17	Agree with above, sexism & racism has diddly squat to do with it. It's more indicative of trends in the music industry as a whole.

29-08-2007, 15:48	#5 (permalink)
pgo i'm done, son Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,262	It's because popular rap (50 Cent, and the like) are shit. There's plenty of good hip-hop out there, though. Been listening to Mos Def lately, myself.

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pat jorge regula Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: B'ham/Leeds Posts: 4,779	I have found some Grime wonders, a grime remix of Coldplay - spun a web one being the best so far. Common is good rap too, intelligent. Can't go far wrong with ATCQ really though, or Hieroglyphics. Pharcyde are amazing alzo. __________________ Last edited by pat : 01-09-2007 at 21:02.

30-08-2007, 19:01	#12 (permalink)
nini drunk Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 591	Hip Hop died in '96 __________________ bonjour

31-08-2007, 05:38	#14 (permalink)
pat jorge regula Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: B'ham/Leeds Posts: 4,779	__________________

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sub Shitcasket™ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 3,668	East coast flavor beat. It's the Itchy's innit. @pat: What the fuck? __________________ Freelance Brighton \| Design Agency Brighton \| Twitter \| Linkedin

31-08-2007, 05:55	#16 (permalink)
pat jorge regula Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: B'ham/Leeds Posts: 4,779	hahaha nice. @sub: only the finest from britain's emerging grime scene. Brown Bear is a bit good: __________________

31-08-2007, 10:33	#17 (permalink)
top_buzz For your health! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,398	MF Doom / Viktor Vaughn is shit hot YouTube - Viktor Vaughn-Mr. Clean YouTube - MF Doom - Dead Bent High Quality

31-08-2007, 17:48	#18 (permalink)
Intrinzik.v2 NeverFuckWithoutaRubber Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Monticello In Posts: 259	^^ Shit like that is what puts me to sleep; Ive never been a fan of MF Doom... Good Shit right there...

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Anxious On the Naughty Step Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 1,300	Best rapper in the world. Business.

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