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5UB · 10-12-2006, 18:54

I am after a logo which is to do with magic...

The site name is: Smagic and the website is related to me being a magician...

I was thinking about a star with an S in it or something as such... Will I need to pay for this logo? And how much? Thanks

keef · 11-12-2006, 07:20

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Originally Posted by 5UB

I am after a logo which is to do with magic...

The site name is: Smagic and the website is related to me being a magician...

I was thinking about a star with an S in it or something as such... Will I need to pay for this logo? And how much? Thanks

Who's gonna tell him?

Larixk · 11-12-2006, 07:27

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Originally Posted by 5UB

I was thinking about a star with an S in it or something as such... Will I need to pay for this logo? And how much? Thanks

of course you don't have to pay.
You just need to have some instant logo magic spell.

Paddy · 11-12-2006, 12:24

I have this one lying around and you can have it for free. I even made it big so you can use it on billboards and such.

cocknose · 11-12-2006, 12:25

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Originally Posted by paddyduke

I have this one lying around and you can have it for free.

lol

sjd · 11-12-2006, 12:41

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instant logo magic spell

...

dipsonng · 12-12-2006, 09:29

do u like the ones u have so far cos i can easily design one for you

Larixk · 12-12-2006, 11:28

I would go for that funky burning one.
I mean it's animated gif, nothing looks better in print than animated gif.

Great spell, sjd!

5UB · 23-12-2006, 15:33

I was looking for something more professional? Sorry but they don't seem suitible :/

Herr Kurm · 26-12-2006, 21:06

just a quick one

if you like it just give me a PS and ill send you a vector file

5UB · 27-12-2006, 05:11

Thats very nice, here are examples of my old logo...

www.smagic.co.uk/1
www.smagic.co.uk/2

Maerk · 27-12-2006, 06:36

I noticed you saying in the thread about your website elsewhere on this forum you said you won't know anything about the industry unless you're told so I will as this applies to logos (and all graphic design, and web design).

They don't come free, at least not decent ones (even bad ones don't), I don't really know why Herr Kurm is entertaining this for a moment but if you're happy with what he produces for nothing, just be aware usually you get what you pay for, 2 pounds of design, 2 pound logo.

Designing an identity can take depending on nature and complexity anything from half a day (can happen if something just clicks) to days and weeks of revisions and fine tuning. And that happens at an hourly rate. And it isn't a cheap industry as these skills aren't worthless, 20 pounds an hour wouldn't even begin to push at some of the higher end fees, though plenty would possibly charge much less for something like a small quick ident which is probably what you're looking for.

(I don't freelance often so if any people with more realistic hourly rates want to chip in with their two cents, I'm going off a rose tinted of seeing what freelancers charge the agency I work at)

The other options open to you are online websites which knock out dozens of logos a week often from pre-existing elements, there is very little creativity or originality involved but they are cheap and fast and might suit your needs.

Just googled these up can find many more this way.
http://thelogocompany.net/ ($149)
http://20dollarlogo.com/ ($20 up)

Herr Kurm · 27-12-2006, 16:07

naw, I am a freelancer and felt like doing something quick and for free

Ive sent him all the files he could possibly need. I couldnt charge him anything for that one because it took me 90 seconds to make and it didnt involve any thinking etc. If he feels pleased with it and would like an corp identity Im available but it wont be for free

Ofcourse someone else can continue designing the corp ident - its his choice

Maerk · 27-12-2006, 18:01

Fair enough then lol Just as he'd mentioned elsewhere on the site that he's a bit clueless, your generosity might make him think all design is that easy

5UB · 28-12-2006, 04:05

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Originally Posted by Maerk

Fair enough then lol Just as he'd mentioned elsewhere on the site that he's a bit clueless, your generosity might make him think all design is that easy

You think I think it is easy? I wish.

Maerk · 28-12-2006, 07:52

Well free was what I meant, not easy heh

5UB · 28-12-2006, 08:30

I have the money, it's just I don't want to be ripped off... All I want is a design and a website

Herr Kurm · 28-12-2006, 11:20

you pay when you are sactisfied with the work but you must have an agreement first - there should be a minimal sum agreed to and additional work will be added to that. Well, I dont personally like working by hourly wage but its up to you who you choose to do all the designing labor

5UB · 28-12-2006, 14:07

Oh so I don't just pay and someone designs a logo and then buggers off? That was not I was hoping...

Herr Kurm · 28-12-2006, 18:02

the designer usually wants his money so if he has done the sketches, developed some of them and you are confident about the final outcome (if you arent then its usually about crappy designer) he has finished his work and as you send the designer his money he'll send you the files. What would be the purpose of keeping those files to himself, he cant use that logo/corp identity for anything else, it is way easier just to give you those darn files then deleting your emails form his mailbox

10-12-2006, 18:54	#1 (permalink)
5UB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 81	The Different Sort of Logo I am after a logo which is to do with magic... The site name is: Smagic and the website is related to me being a magician... I was thinking about a star with an S in it or something as such... Will I need to pay for this logo? And how much? Thanks

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Herr Kurm bloody peasant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 2,711	just a quick one if you like it just give me a PS and ill send you a vector file Attached Thumbnails

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12-12-2006, 09:29	#7 (permalink)
dipsonng Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4	do u like the ones u have so far cos i can easily design one for you

12-12-2006, 11:28	#8 (permalink)
Larixk Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Utrecht, Netherlands Posts: 1,052	I would go for that funky burning one. I mean it's animated gif, nothing looks better in print than animated gif. Great spell, sjd!

23-12-2006, 15:33	#9 (permalink)
5UB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 81	I was looking for something more professional? Sorry but they don't seem suitible :/

27-12-2006, 05:11	#11 (permalink)
5UB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 81	Thats very nice, here are examples of my old logo... www.smagic.co.uk/1 www.smagic.co.uk/2

27-12-2006, 06:36	#12 (permalink)
Maerk Doodler. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,424	I noticed you saying in the thread about your website elsewhere on this forum you said you won't know anything about the industry unless you're told so I will as this applies to logos (and all graphic design, and web design). They don't come free, at least not decent ones (even bad ones don't), I don't really know why Herr Kurm is entertaining this for a moment but if you're happy with what he produces for nothing, just be aware usually you get what you pay for, 2 pounds of design, 2 pound logo. Designing an identity can take depending on nature and complexity anything from half a day (can happen if something just clicks) to days and weeks of revisions and fine tuning. And that happens at an hourly rate. And it isn't a cheap industry as these skills aren't worthless, 20 pounds an hour wouldn't even begin to push at some of the higher end fees, though plenty would possibly charge much less for something like a small quick ident which is probably what you're looking for. (I don't freelance often so if any people with more realistic hourly rates want to chip in with their two cents, I'm going off a rose tinted of seeing what freelancers charge the agency I work at) The other options open to you are online websites which knock out dozens of logos a week often from pre-existing elements, there is very little creativity or originality involved but they are cheap and fast and might suit your needs. Just googled these up can find many more this way. http://thelogocompany.net/ ($149) http://20dollarlogo.com/ ($20 up)

27-12-2006, 16:07	#13 (permalink)
Herr Kurm bloody peasant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 2,711	naw, I am a freelancer and felt like doing something quick and for free Ive sent him all the files he could possibly need. I couldnt charge him anything for that one because it took me 90 seconds to make and it didnt involve any thinking etc. If he feels pleased with it and would like an corp identity Im available but it wont be for free Ofcourse someone else can continue designing the corp ident - its his choice

27-12-2006, 18:01	#14 (permalink)
Maerk Doodler. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,424	Fair enough then lol Just as he'd mentioned elsewhere on the site that he's a bit clueless, your generosity might make him think all design is that easy

28-12-2006, 07:52	#16 (permalink)
Maerk Doodler. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 1,424	Well free was what I meant, not easy heh

28-12-2006, 08:30	#17 (permalink)
5UB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 81	I have the money, it's just I don't want to be ripped off... All I want is a design and a website

28-12-2006, 11:20	#18 (permalink)
Herr Kurm bloody peasant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 2,711	you pay when you are sactisfied with the work but you must have an agreement first - there should be a minimal sum agreed to and additional work will be added to that. Well, I dont personally like working by hourly wage but its up to you who you choose to do all the designing labor

28-12-2006, 14:07	#19 (permalink)
5UB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 81	Oh so I don't just pay and someone designs a logo and then buggers off? That was not I was hoping...

28-12-2006, 18:02	#20 (permalink)
Herr Kurm bloody peasant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 2,711	the designer usually wants his money so if he has done the sketches, developed some of them and you are confident about the final outcome (if you arent then its usually about crappy designer) he has finished his work and as you send the designer his money he'll send you the files. What would be the purpose of keeping those files to himself, he cant use that logo/corp identity for anything else, it is way easier just to give you those darn files then deleting your emails form his mailbox

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