Old 14-12-2008, 17:44   #41 (permalink)
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CLASSIC FONTS
Helvetica
Universe
Trade Gothic
FF Din
Avante Garde
Gridnik
Garamond
Caslon
Baskerville
Bodoni
Lublin graph
Futura
Georgia
Free versions?
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Old 14-12-2008, 17:55   #42 (permalink)
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Old 14-12-2008, 18:32   #43 (permalink)
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Thanks a bunch. I'm building my font library now.

This thread is great.

Edit: Quicksand is on about every single free font site and rated pretty high. Apparently the critique paid off.
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Old 15-12-2008, 18:47   #44 (permalink)
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Great resource CharmingMan!

"In short always try to have a keen eye for the spacing between lettering at large sizes, there isn't a science to it the goal is simply to make the words look balanced and together."


2¢...
I remember one of my professors a long time ago saying... when kerning your letters, imagine pouring a glass of water between them... it should be equal.

Also... never leave one word on it's own line at the end of a paragraph.
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Old 17-12-2008, 03:31   #45 (permalink)
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Also... never leave one word on it's own line at the end of a paragraph.
Widows and Orphans

Users can always (and frequently) increase/decrease text-size though. Making it very hard to add line-breaks in there without risking your site breaking.

You can definitely edit out a few words to make the lines fit w/o widows/orphans at standard settings, but I wouldn't suggest using line breaks.
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Old 17-12-2008, 04:01   #46 (permalink)
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A widow/Orphan is not just a word, it is also line of text.
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Old 17-12-2008, 04:10   #47 (permalink)
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Top stuff CM I could read this stuff all day.
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Old 17-12-2008, 05:55   #48 (permalink)
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Im gonna do some more on here soon, i got a load of other ideas...might do a bit today. glad its useful
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Old 17-12-2008, 06:17   #49 (permalink)
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Is there a site that showcases examples of good typography in web design?
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Old 22-12-2008, 01:48   #50 (permalink)
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this is all amazing for us, i like always as this even searching on other sites too.
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Old 22-12-2008, 02:13   #51 (permalink)
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Just a few things:
In your first post, it is Lubalin graph not lublin.
Univers, not Universe

It'd be nice to have something on combining typefaces properly.
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this is all amazing for us, i like always as this even searching on other sites too.

My sentiments exactly.
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Old 22-12-2008, 04:18   #54 (permalink)
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this is all amazing for us, i like always as this even searching on other sites too.


thanks kashif....I think?

what does that actually mean though?
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Old 22-12-2008, 04:21   #55 (permalink)
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Nice one for this charming man, forwarded this to a friend and he wondered why he had spent £1200 on a course when he could have read this article instead. I'll get him to forward the monies, I'll just require your sort code and bank account details.
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Old 22-12-2008, 04:25   #56 (permalink)
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It'd be nice to have something on combining typefaces properly.

yeah good idea.

I would need to do some research of my own on this, not something that I have seen explained before.

Though i have read before that it is a type crime to combine faces that are too similar

i.e. universe, helvetica

I recon typophile might have some good explanations on this though.

I good bet is to choose fonts from the same family that have been specifically designed to work with each other.

meta and meta serif for example
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Old 22-12-2008, 04:27   #57 (permalink)
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just came by here again for the first time in a long time. Great stuff Charming Man.

Actually, these kind of topics would fit better in some sort of wiki. Would be nice to capture all these things in an orderly fashion, and have a more accessible reference guide
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Nice one for this charming man, forwarded this to a friend and he wondered why he had spent £1200 on a course when he could have read this article instead. I'll get him to forward the monies, I'll just require your sort code and bank account details.


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all seriousness though i cant believe they dont bother to teach this stuff to undergraduate designers.

I spent nearly £14grand on my degree all i got out of it was a massive overdraft and a drinking problem.
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Old 22-12-2008, 18:38   #59 (permalink)
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all seriousness though i cant believe they dont bother to teach this stuff to undergraduate designers.
My course was called multimedia design, but the only design we learnt was the difference between an ascender and descender, and what leading and kerning was. Never why/when it's best used. Such a shame. They got hung up on technical stuff in Flash and ting and ting.

Great thread by the way CharmingMan
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Old 22-12-2008, 22:30   #60 (permalink)
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Thank you so much. I read this thread last night and the website I am currently working on already looks 10x better just by changing a couple of things with the typography.

Thanks for the great resource
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