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n21design · 29-05-2008, 12:28

Hello all, I was hoping someone could help me with a CSS issue im having. The issue only arises in Firefox and happens only the first time the page is loaded. Have a look for yourself here: CSS Trickery

Now if you refresh after the page loads, the second time the page loads correctly...something i find strange. I have tried playing around with the floating and div widths but to no avail. Could someone be willing to give me a hand?

MikeMackay · 29-05-2008, 12:51

It loaded fine for me first time, refreshing and refreshing again showed no change in design/layout.

pgo · 29-05-2008, 13:37

Same here. Latest 'fox, OSX.

karmedic · 29-05-2008, 13:44

And again here - FF2 on XP.

n21design · 29-05-2008, 15:02

it appears to be only a FF issue but some people see it and some dont.

karmedic · 29-05-2008, 15:18

What exactly is the issue you are seeing? Perhaps I'm simply overlooking it because I don't know where to look...

mattbl34 · 29-05-2008, 18:18

I didn't see anything wrong, osx FF3. Refresh didn't change anything that I could see.

Shiro · 29-05-2008, 19:24

winxp ff2. Don't see it.

n21design · 29-05-2008, 20:07

If you try this link you will see it. CSS Trickery [Correct link]

also a image version of the issue.
http://www.solatlanticbiodiesel.com/_fs/refresh.jpg

Shiro · 29-05-2008, 21:29

Still not happening over here!

MikeMackay · 30-05-2008, 04:36

Again it was fine for me, FF 2 on OS X.

Limbo · 30-05-2008, 04:58

OK here - FF2 osx & XP FF2

karmedic · 30-05-2008, 11:00

i'm afraid to say that your site still works for me in ff2 ...

steveb · 30-05-2008, 12:22

Also no change with Vista/Firefox2(latest)

n21design · 30-05-2008, 14:06

....im not going crazy, I swear!!! ahhhh lol well the image shows what happens but if none see it live then the only trickery happening here is my post. Thanks everybody.

jesusfreak101 · 30-05-2008, 17:10

i saw it with the correct link
but after i refreshed it i couldnt see it anymore

n21design · 30-05-2008, 18:16

Thats the whole point...the first time the page loads it displays incorrectly...then you refresh and its fixed.. whats up with that?

KarateRobot · 30-05-2008, 19:18

It's not happening for me either, but since you've got javascript that preloads images, my first thought would be that it's an onLoad problem.

Second (and again, I don't even know what problem you're talking about, since it works for me), but sometimes if you don't specify the height and width of an image explicitly, it will mess stuff up in interesting ways, and then it will get fixed when you hit refresh (because by then the browser usually knows how big the images are and can lay them out properly).

Good luck!

29-05-2008, 12:28	#1 (permalink)
n21design All mixed up Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lima, Peru Posts: 141	CSS trickery Hello all, I was hoping someone could help me with a CSS issue im having. The issue only arises in Firefox and happens only the first time the page is loaded. Have a look for yourself here: CSS Trickery Now if you refresh after the page loads, the second time the page loads correctly...something i find strange. I have tried playing around with the floating and div widths but to no avail. Could someone be willing to give me a hand?

29-05-2008, 12:51	#2 (permalink)
MikeMackay Everything is fine. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Witham & London Posts: 828	It loaded fine for me first time, refreshing and refreshing again showed no change in design/layout. __________________ Mike Mackay: Web Developer - LinkedIn - FutureTweets; Easily create and schedule your Twitter posts

29-05-2008, 19:24	#8 (permalink)
Shiro shiro Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 2,605	winxp ff2. Don't see it. __________________ This space for rent. Dads Japan Dudes Japan

29-05-2008, 21:29	#10 (permalink)
Shiro shiro Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 2,605	Still not happening over here! __________________ This space for rent. Dads Japan Dudes Japan

30-05-2008, 04:36	#11 (permalink)
MikeMackay Everything is fine. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Witham & London Posts: 828	Again it was fine for me, FF 2 on OS X. __________________ Mike Mackay: Web Developer - LinkedIn - FutureTweets; Easily create and schedule your Twitter posts

29-05-2008, 13:37	#3 (permalink)
pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	Same here. Latest 'fox, OSX.

29-05-2008, 13:44	#4 (permalink)
karmedic id Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ottawa Posts: 217	And again here - FF2 on XP.

29-05-2008, 15:02	#5 (permalink)
n21design All mixed up Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lima, Peru Posts: 141	it appears to be only a FF issue but some people see it and some dont.

29-05-2008, 15:18	#6 (permalink)
karmedic id Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ottawa Posts: 217	What exactly is the issue you are seeing? Perhaps I'm simply overlooking it because I don't know where to look...

29-05-2008, 18:18	#7 (permalink)
mattbl34 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 54	I didn't see anything wrong, osx FF3. Refresh didn't change anything that I could see.

29-05-2008, 20:07	#9 (permalink)
n21design All mixed up Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lima, Peru Posts: 141	If you try this link you will see it. CSS Trickery [Correct link] also a image version of the issue. http://www.solatlanticbiodiesel.com/_fs/refresh.jpg

30-05-2008, 04:58	#12 (permalink)
Limbo Baskin' Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,619	OK here - FF2 osx & XP FF2 __________________ CSS Search Engine

30-05-2008, 11:00	#13 (permalink)
karmedic id Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ottawa Posts: 217	i'm afraid to say that your site still works for me in ff2 ...

30-05-2008, 12:22	#14 (permalink)
steveb 389 ppm and rising Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Järvenpää, Finland Posts: 4,940	Also no change with Vista/Firefox2(latest) __________________ My free fonts www.utfi.net

30-05-2008, 14:06	#15 (permalink)
n21design All mixed up Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lima, Peru Posts: 141	....im not going crazy, I swear!!! ahhhh lol well the image shows what happens but if none see it live then the only trickery happening here is my post. Thanks everybody.

30-05-2008, 17:10	#16 (permalink)
jesusfreak101 ie must die Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Washington Posts: 491	i saw it with the correct link but after i refreshed it i couldnt see it anymore

30-05-2008, 18:16	#17 (permalink)
n21design All mixed up Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lima, Peru Posts: 141	Thats the whole point...the first time the page loads it displays incorrectly...then you refresh and its fixed.. whats up with that?

30-05-2008, 19:18	#18 (permalink)
KarateRobot Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 64	It's not happening for me either, but since you've got javascript that preloads images, my first thought would be that it's an onLoad problem. Second (and again, I don't even know what problem you're talking about, since it works for me), but sometimes if you don't specify the height and width of an image explicitly, it will mess stuff up in interesting ways, and then it will get fixed when you hit refresh (because by then the browser usually knows how big the images are and can lay them out properly). Good luck!

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