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Do Gooder · 26-02-2008, 05:18

good morning people

i have basic cowboy knowledge off css/html - know sod all about php - and am thinking of doing some learning of CMSes's

searching the forum there's a fair few opinions on EE, wordpress, Joomla etc.

EE looking the most flexible - at the cost of a learning curve.

but can't find out on contribute - which i have a license for... and looks pretty useful to me (as i am a dreamweaver monkey).

so any opinions on contribute?

funkyprem · 26-02-2008, 05:25

used it about three years ago now. was great for shall we say less knowledgable clients.

and if you code your site using dreamweaver templates (cue rant) it integrates perfectly with contribute.

I wouldn't say to use it just because you have a licence though. use the right tool for the job.

Do Gooder · 26-02-2008, 05:31

you right about the right tool..

when you say less knowledgeable clients.. do you mean contribute has a more approachable client interface?

holds the more bewildered clients hand better.

niggle · 26-02-2008, 05:55

Quote:

was great for shall we say less knowledgable clients.

Would you recommend it for clients who are literally copy-pasting from word?

Hunch · 26-02-2008, 06:07

It does have a specific function to add a Microsoft Office document.

Do Gooder · 26-02-2008, 06:08

could be just right for likkle charities... with nay budget.

niggle · 26-02-2008, 06:15

Quote:

It does have a specific function to add a Microsoft Office document.

That could be useful, cheers.

Do Gooder · 26-02-2008, 06:20

what i'm thinking at the moment is to learn contribute to do low budget stuff - and farm out the more complex sites to the freelance subspecies.

i am a bit too stupid/busy to learn the complex stuff quickly.

rustybones · 26-02-2008, 16:24

I used Contribute about 2 years ago for a site completely built using Dreamweaver templates and it worked fine. If you're not worried about Dreamweaver filling up your code with cruft (technical term

) then I would say this is an option.

Though in saying that, I have been playing around with the new release of Drupal and fuck me its swish... it's very easy to install and use. But if you can't be sodded learning how to install a CMS, then yeah go with Contribute for now

Do Gooder · 27-02-2008, 04:31

cheers rusty.

bin thinking about this - i might offer clients a two tier quote.. 'custom - $$$' and 'software - $'

its getting my head around explaining this to clients so theys clearly understand the difference between the two.

need to think carefully on the wording as 'crap and cheap v's good and expensive' wont cut it!

funkyprem · 27-02-2008, 04:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustybones

If you're not worried about Dreamweaver filling up your code with cruft (technical term

)

It doesn't really do that. It only adds a few dreamweavery comeents around sections of the page. Hardly killing the quality of your code for the advantages you get.

longisland6 · 27-02-2008, 10:48

have a contribute question; if i made a site with client editable content through contribute, does the client need to have contribute installed on their machine?

Do Gooder · 27-02-2008, 10:54

yup. but it's not a huge cost unless they want it on lots of computers.

rustybones · 27-02-2008, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkyprem

It doesn't really do that. It only adds a few dreamweavery comeents around sections of the page. Hardly killing the quality of your code for the advantages you get.

Code:

<html><!-- InstanceBegin template="/Templates/intranet.dwt" codeOutsideHTMLIsLocked="false" -->
<head>
<!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="doctitle" -->
<title>Intranet</title>
<!-- InstanceEndEditable --> 
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;">
<link href="../../styles/tupdate_style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="favicon.ico" type="image/x-icon">
<!-- Fireworks MX Dreamweaver MX target.  Created Mon Feb 23 16:07:35 GMT+1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time) 2004-->
<!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="head" --><!-- InstanceEndEditable -->
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff">

Yeah I'm more a fan of clean code. Plus DW inserted a bgcolor in the body tag when the DW generated CSS already covers the bgcolor, WTF?!

funkyprem · 28-02-2008, 03:42

Me too fella, but my point was that if you require this functionality then this amount of what are only comments is acceptable in my eyes for clients who a) have little money b) can't be arsed to learn a new interface.

additions to the body tag is a gripe though.

i've worked with other CMS's that are just completely incapable of producing anything remotely near valid and that annoys me, ruining my beautiful code.

26-02-2008, 05:18	#1 (permalink)
Do Gooder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,486	adobe contribute good morning people i have basic cowboy knowledge off css/html - know sod all about php - and am thinking of doing some learning of CMSes's searching the forum there's a fair few opinions on EE, wordpress, Joomla etc. EE looking the most flexible - at the cost of a learning curve. but can't find out on contribute - which i have a license for... and looks pretty useful to me (as i am a dreamweaver monkey). so any opinions on contribute? __________________ personal --www.rogersartwork.com work --www.dogoodadvertising.com --www.goodacademy.org --www.reprinted.co.uk

26-02-2008, 05:25	#2 (permalink)
funkyprem For all your goober needs Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coventry, UK Posts: 1,531	used it about three years ago now. was great for shall we say less knowledgable clients. and if you code your site using dreamweaver templates (cue rant) it integrates perfectly with contribute. I wouldn't say to use it just because you have a licence though. use the right tool for the job. __________________ Time is really the only capital that any human being has, and the one thing that he can’t afford to lose. - Thomas Edison prem ghinde

26-02-2008, 05:31	#3 (permalink)
Do Gooder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,486	you right about the right tool.. when you say less knowledgeable clients.. do you mean contribute has a more approachable client interface? holds the more bewildered clients hand better. __________________ personal --www.rogersartwork.com work --www.dogoodadvertising.com --www.goodacademy.org --www.reprinted.co.uk Last edited by Do Gooder : 26-02-2008 at 05:44.

26-02-2008, 06:08	#6 (permalink)
Do Gooder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,486	could be just right for likkle charities... with nay budget. __________________ personal --www.rogersartwork.com work --www.dogoodadvertising.com --www.goodacademy.org --www.reprinted.co.uk

26-02-2008, 06:20	#8 (permalink)
Do Gooder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,486	what i'm thinking at the moment is to learn contribute to do low budget stuff - and farm out the more complex sites to the freelance subspecies. i am a bit too stupid/busy to learn the complex stuff quickly. __________________ personal --www.rogersartwork.com work --www.dogoodadvertising.com --www.goodacademy.org --www.reprinted.co.uk Last edited by Do Gooder : 26-02-2008 at 07:27.

26-02-2008, 06:07	#5 (permalink)
Hunch Grumpy old man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North Japan Posts: 1,695	It does have a specific function to add a Microsoft Office document.

26-02-2008, 16:24	#9 (permalink)
rustybones corporate whore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 250	I used Contribute about 2 years ago for a site completely built using Dreamweaver templates and it worked fine. If you're not worried about Dreamweaver filling up your code with cruft (technical term ) then I would say this is an option. Though in saying that, I have been playing around with the new release of Drupal and fuck me its swish... it's very easy to install and use. But if you can't be sodded learning how to install a CMS, then yeah go with Contribute for now

27-02-2008, 04:31	#10 (permalink)
Do Gooder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,486	cheers rusty. bin thinking about this - i might offer clients a two tier quote.. 'custom - $$$' and 'software - $' its getting my head around explaining this to clients so theys clearly understand the difference between the two. need to think carefully on the wording as 'crap and cheap v's good and expensive' wont cut it! __________________ personal --www.rogersartwork.com work --www.dogoodadvertising.com --www.goodacademy.org --www.reprinted.co.uk

27-02-2008, 10:48	#12 (permalink)
longisland6 stephen eighmey Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: earth Posts: 152	have a contribute question; if i made a site with client editable content through contribute, does the client need to have contribute installed on their machine?

27-02-2008, 10:54	#13 (permalink)
Do Gooder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,486	yup. but it's not a huge cost unless they want it on lots of computers. __________________ personal --www.rogersartwork.com work --www.dogoodadvertising.com --www.goodacademy.org --www.reprinted.co.uk

28-02-2008, 03:42	#15 (permalink)
funkyprem For all your goober needs Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Coventry, UK Posts: 1,531	Me too fella, but my point was that if you require this functionality then this amount of what are only comments is acceptable in my eyes for clients who a) have little money b) can't be arsed to learn a new interface. additions to the body tag is a gripe though. i've worked with other CMS's that are just completely incapable of producing anything remotely near valid and that annoys me, ruining my beautiful code. __________________ Time is really the only capital that any human being has, and the one thing that he can’t afford to lose. - Thomas Edison prem ghinde

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