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88mph · 23-02-2008, 11:55

just wondered what resources people used to produce cross-browser compatibility.

Being a new comer to web design/development this part of the process feels like a non-stop barrage of brick walls, and I am sure a few others out there would benefit greatly from this thread.

seen.to · 23-02-2008, 12:08

The best way is extra machines for testing, for me that involves a main PC for IE7 and Firefox 2 and a second PC with IE6, Firefox 1.5 and Opera. Same at work with the addition of an iMac for Safari and Firefox.

For HTML email add Outlook, Outlook Express and AOL Desktop. For Webmail Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo! Mail and any others that you know your client base will be using all checked in the above browsers.

88mph · 23-02-2008, 12:43

what i dont get it, with so many things on my site going wrong, how do i find the best ways to fix them?

seen.to · 23-02-2008, 12:49

Mad skillz*

*Earned from practice, patience, trial-and-error, experimenting, reading.

88mph · 23-02-2008, 13:27

i am starting to get that impression

88mph · 23-02-2008, 13:28

someone should write a book

freelancr · 23-02-2008, 14:07

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Originally Posted by 88mph

someone should write a book

there are several books

Patr100 · 23-02-2008, 14:19

found this somewhere -

Test your web design in different browsers - Browsershots

pgo · 23-02-2008, 14:24

This is a good site for IE bugs - Explorer Exposed!

Really, if I run into an issue, I just google it. Also, you learn with experience. Make it work in Firefox/Opera/Safari (which should be brutally easy if you know HTML/CSS) and then fix for IE.

niksy · 23-02-2008, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgo

Really, if I run into an issue, I just google it. Also, you learn with experience. Make it work in Firefox/Opera/Safari (which should be brutally easy if you know HTML/CSS) and then fix for IE.

Quoted for truth.

HaXXor's · 23-02-2008, 20:44

I think it's time to stop bothering for old browser, i try to make my design work in IE6, IE7, Mozilla and opera. Sorry but i don't really care if a mac user add a bad experience on my website because he is already having a bad experience.. I am joking.

Shiro · 23-02-2008, 20:48

You should use a CSS reset sheet. Thats one of the main things that can help, because it starts you off from a relatively neutral playing ground on most/all browsers.

88mph · 24-02-2008, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by freelancr

there are several books

specifically on this subject? couldn't find any in amazon (although i only tried a couple of search terms)

88mph · 24-02-2008, 13:54

IE PNG Fix - TwinHelix

anyone use this?

niksy · 24-02-2008, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88mph

IE PNG Fix - TwinHelix

anyone use this?

Me, works okay.

pgo · 24-02-2008, 17:01

Yep, I've used that method. Really only needed for IE6, so it's easy enough to target. IE5-5.5 were the real head-bangers.

Also note this: Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is freeware, so you can run multiple copies of Windows.

freelancr · 24-02-2008, 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88mph

IE PNG Fix - TwinHelix

anyone use this?

ah cool didn't know there was a fix for background images as the other PNG Fix doesn't do it! Fed up of using shitty gifs for IE6

Blue Ire · 24-02-2008, 17:35

Once you are really rockin' it though, you'll find that 9 times out of 10 your code comes out working in all the major browsers.

88mph · 25-02-2008, 04:52

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Originally Posted by Blue Ire

Once you are really rockin' it though, you'll find that 9 times out of 10 your code comes out working in all the major browsers.

i get that, things like nested tags to avoid ie6's box model issues will become habit

woodss · 25-02-2008, 05:08

Yep was gonna say what pgo said - use Virtual PC - none of that multiple machine rubbish, just mount the image and away you go - multiple testing environments. I don't have access to a Mac, I test in Safari on Windows and I assume it'll be more or less the same if i'm honest.

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88mph Great Scott!! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 223	Browser Compatibility Tools just wondered what resources people used to produce cross-browser compatibility. Being a new comer to web design/development this part of the process feels like a non-stop barrage of brick walls, and I am sure a few others out there would benefit greatly from this thread.

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seen.to unusual suspect ™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: DE, USA Posts: 2,897	The best way is extra machines for testing, for me that involves a main PC for IE7 and Firefox 2 and a second PC with IE6, Firefox 1.5 and Opera. Same at work with the addition of an iMac for Safari and Firefox. For HTML email add Outlook, Outlook Express and AOL Desktop. For Webmail Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo! Mail and any others that you know your client base will be using all checked in the above browsers. __________________ [[proverbs and quotes]] [[blog]] [[work]] [[photowebby - some photo's by me]]

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seen.to unusual suspect ™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: DE, USA Posts: 2,897	Mad skillz* *Earned from practice, patience, trial-and-error, experimenting, reading. __________________ [[proverbs and quotes]] [[blog]] [[work]] [[photowebby - some photo's by me]]

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88mph Great Scott!! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 223	what i dont get it, with so many things on my site going wrong, how do i find the best ways to fix them?

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88mph Great Scott!! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 223	i am starting to get that impression

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88mph Great Scott!! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 223	someone should write a book

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Patr100 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 87	found this somewhere - Test your web design in different browsers - Browsershots

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pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	This is a good site for IE bugs - Explorer Exposed! Really, if I run into an issue, I just google it. Also, you learn with experience. Make it work in Firefox/Opera/Safari (which should be brutally easy if you know HTML/CSS) and then fix for IE.

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HaXXor's Web Schizophrenic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In your head Posts: 34	I think it's time to stop bothering for old browser, i try to make my design work in IE6, IE7, Mozilla and opera. Sorry but i don't really care if a mac user add a bad experience on my website because he is already having a bad experience.. I am joking.

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Shiro shiro Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 2,606	You should use a CSS reset sheet. Thats one of the main things that can help, because it starts you off from a relatively neutral playing ground on most/all browsers.

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88mph Great Scott!! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 223	IE PNG Fix - TwinHelix anyone use this?

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pgo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,340	Yep, I've used that method. Really only needed for IE6, so it's easy enough to target. IE5-5.5 were the real head-bangers. Also note this: Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is freeware, so you can run multiple copies of Windows.

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Blue Ire Magic Pan Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 66	Once you are really rockin' it though, you'll find that 9 times out of 10 your code comes out working in all the major browsers.

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woodss Just another web monkey Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 215	Yep was gonna say what pgo said - use Virtual PC - none of that multiple machine rubbish, just mount the image and away you go - multiple testing environments. I don't have access to a Mac, I test in Safari on Windows and I assume it'll be more or less the same if i'm honest.

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