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Old 30-01-2008, 08:58   #21 (permalink)
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The kerning's disturbing.

I'm beginning to wonder whether it was the explicit ideas that they were most concerned about
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Old 30-01-2008, 09:33   #22 (permalink)
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This book is tits!

Agreed. Waaaaayyyyyyy to dry. near enough bored me to death that one.

Look at this instread: Amazon.co.uk: Thinking with Type: A Critical Guide for Designers, Writers, Editors, and Students (Design Briefs): Books: Ellen Lupton

Much more digestible.

As for the OP's question - remember that design and art are different. Choosing to be different and experimental is great, but make sure you really study/listen to the brief - to one degree, the objectives of the examiner.

A really good design will achieve both - imaginatively expressive while fulfilling it's function.
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Old 30-01-2008, 09:43   #23 (permalink)
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Agreed. Waaaaayyyyyyy to dry. near enough bored me to death that one.


No, I mean it was gooooooooooooooooood!!!
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Old 30-01-2008, 09:48   #24 (permalink)
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I'm beginning to wonder whether it was the explicit ideas that they were most concerned about

No idea what you're on about...
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Old 30-01-2008, 09:53   #25 (permalink)
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This book is tits!

This book is the tits!

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Old 30-01-2008, 10:11   #26 (permalink)
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Grades aren't import to me anymore. I've learned that atleast in England, visual arts courses are entirely bullshit, and you can easily blag any grade you want so long as you listen when your teacher tells you exaclty what ridiculous criteria the examiner wants to see. I'm much more concerned with doing something i'm proud of, and putting together a decent portfolio. The thing is though, the explicit images are part of my final project, and so will be part of my portfolio when I go for interviews for university etc.

Here's one of the images i'm planning on using, i've got some more ideas in the pipeline;



It's not mega explicit but it does seem a little disturbed, would it be wise of me not to include that in a portfolio?
Fuck me - is this a wind-up?
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Old 30-01-2008, 10:18   #27 (permalink)
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This book is tits!

It is not tits!

For radical type treatment, I'd agree, you need to look elsewhere.

But for someone like Samione this book covers type history/fundamentals better than any other book I know.

It is written by two of the senior lecturers at Central Saint Martins who probably know more about typography than most of the people on this forum combined.
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Old 30-01-2008, 10:37   #28 (permalink)
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Fuck me - is this a wind-up?

What makes you say that?
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Old 30-01-2008, 10:40   #29 (permalink)
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It sounds like you are highlighting all the text and trying to adjust the kerning. That won't achieve anything because kerning is the space between individual characters only, it will do nothing on blocks of text. Tracking is used for blocks/words/lines of text.

Therefore kerning will only work when you are in between two characters.

If they haven't taught you this maybe you should find another college!

Or buy a book on basic typography.

Here's a good one:

Type & Typography

PS is not really the place for typography, PS is for image editing/creation.
InDesign/Illustrator are the place to be because of the specific typographic tools that they provide.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, and nope, they haven't taught us fucking shit, honestly I feel like i'm completely wasting my time. I even don't need to turn up to any of the lessons because the teacher is never any fucking use!
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Old 30-01-2008, 10:48   #30 (permalink)
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Old 30-01-2008, 10:59   #31 (permalink)
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Oh shit, iKern! My eyes are open. I've just finished the home hysterectomy kit, I bet you'd all love to see it. I might treat you.
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Old 30-01-2008, 11:05   #32 (permalink)
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Great.
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Old 30-01-2008, 11:07   #33 (permalink)
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Great.

Bet you can't wait I'll be having a word with my teacher tommorow actually, he needs to do things, lots of them, and quickly.
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Old 30-01-2008, 11:20   #34 (permalink)
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send him/her over here—i'm sure we can furnish a verbal kicking
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Old 30-01-2008, 11:23   #35 (permalink)
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send him/her over here—i'm sure we can furnish a verbal kicking

I don't think he'd survive, infact, he'd probably cry. I'm not even joking either.

Edit

Double page spread I think.
I am more than reluctant to show my tutor this.

There is a brief behind all this nastiness by the way, it's not just random filth.


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Old 30-01-2008, 11:47   #36 (permalink)
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Are you criminally insane?
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Old 30-01-2008, 11:48   #37 (permalink)
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Are you criminally insane?

Hahaha, no. I think I better explain my brief before I get labelled psychotic.

Basically, those two images are part of a massive project. I came up with my own brief which was this;

Create illustrations for a fictional history book that looks back on the visual communication used by an orwellian/omnipient government.

The whole book is based around a timeline, and each chapter looks at specific events and the graphics that this fictional government used . I wanted to convey a subtle sense of nastiness through the whole thing, which is why I use alot visual oxymorons of nasty concepts and imagery, but with a cartoony edge. The chapter in the book the images above are based around was reproductive restriction.

I honestly hope you don't think i'm sort of maniac! Now you see why i'm reluctant to show my tutor this.
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Old 30-01-2008, 11:53   #38 (permalink)
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Oh my.
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Old 30-01-2008, 11:57   #39 (permalink)
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Oh my.

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Old 30-01-2008, 12:06   #40 (permalink)
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I guess theres two reasons against me showing my tutor then
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