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stuntman · 25-01-2008, 07:39

Whats the deal with this? I'm new to web design. I submitted a site of mine and it came back with 4 errors, then I did a clean up Markup with HTML Tidy.

What page has it tidied? the index / home page?

I don't get it?

Dusteh · 25-01-2008, 07:42

show us the site?

as to your question, I expect it only sorted out the index page.

stuntman · 25-01-2008, 09:02

the site in question

pgo · 25-01-2008, 09:40

I'm seeing 35 errors...

[Invalid] Markup Validation of http://www.lifestylepartitions.com/Content/Home.aspx?Pge=1 - W3C Markup Validator

stuntman · 25-01-2008, 09:56

I'm not.

[Invalid] Markup Validation of http://www.lifestylepartitions.com/ - W3C Markup Validator

So do you have to check every page?

weldo · 25-01-2008, 10:03

only if you want them all to validate ...

this helps to do a load at a time ...
WDG HTML Validator

apple · 25-01-2008, 10:03

correct me if iam wrong but i think your tags should be lowercase.

pgo · 25-01-2008, 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by apple

correct me if iam wrong but i think your tags should be lowercase.

Only XHTML has to be lowercase. HTML can be uppercase, but even if I'm working with HTML, I still prefer lowercase because it looks nicer.

stuntman · 25-01-2008, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by weldo

only if you want them all to validate ...

this helps to do a load at a time ...
WDG HTML Validator

nice one

haku · 25-01-2008, 10:29

Not only do you have to do every page, if you have dynamic pages you have to validate them in the different states that they come out.

Well, you don't *have* to. But if you want valid code you have to.

iblastoff · 25-01-2008, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuntman

I'm not.

[Invalid] Markup Validation of http://www.lifestylepartitions.com/ - W3C Markup Validator

thats because you're just validating some weird loader. pgo is actually validating the right area of your site and yes its definitely carrying 35+ in validation errors.

stuntman · 25-01-2008, 11:53

^ yes you're quite right, oops, sorry.

so i guess thats going to be 35 errrors per page......oooooh, is that bad?

If I don't have any errors, will my site run faster / smoother?

weldo · 25-01-2008, 11:56

sometimes you only have to fix one and it will affect the results of everything beneath it .. fix one - and 25 disappear ...

it won't make anything any smoother, or faster - but you will know that its all built correctly !! futureproof (ish)

pgo · 25-01-2008, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by weldo

sometimes you only have to fix one and it will affect the results of everything beneath it .. fix one - and 25 disappear ...

it won't make anything any smoother, or faster - but you will know that its all built correctly !! futureproof (ish)

His are mostly invalid attributes.

haku · 25-01-2008, 21:29

Quote:

so i guess thats going to be 35 errrors per page

Thats not 35 per page, thats 35 on that page. Other pages will have their own errors (or not if done properly).

adras · 26-01-2008, 00:20

Fix them if you can, do things right. You will learn with the experience.

freelancr · 26-01-2008, 11:52

Here is a really good firefox addon that shows you the validation status of EVERY page you load, you don't have to do anything other than look at it, ideal for during development and afterwards by clicking through every page to do a quick check. I often find a silly XHTML error can cause other problems, that if you didn't know about you could try to fix another way, and potentially compound your problems by only masking the symptoms of the bug.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/249

stuntman · 28-01-2008, 03:52

^ downloaded.

edit : and it's superb, thanks.

weldo · 28-01-2008, 08:10

of course ... if you're using dreamweaver - thats got all the validation tools you should need to build yer site from the start ...

stuntman · 28-01-2008, 11:58

Nah, I'm using some wierd bespoke really buggy web toolkit thing that a bloke in our IT Department built.

I thought Dreamweaver was supposed to turn out a load of shit code?

25-01-2008, 07:39	#1 (permalink)
stuntman cunning stunts Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 906	Markup Validation Service Whats the deal with this? I'm new to web design. I submitted a site of mine and it came back with 4 errors, then I did a clean up Markup with HTML Tidy. What page has it tidied? the index / home page? I don't get it?

25-01-2008, 07:42	#2 (permalink)
Dusteh Sir digby chicken caesar Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 4,304	show us the site? as to your question, I expect it only sorted out the index page. __________________ unconsolidated isoparms

25-01-2008, 10:03	#6 (permalink)
weldo now with added beard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,273	only if you want them all to validate ... this helps to do a load at a time ... WDG HTML Validator __________________ fuck signatures

25-01-2008, 11:56	#13 (permalink)
weldo now with added beard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,273	sometimes you only have to fix one and it will affect the results of everything beneath it .. fix one - and 25 disappear ... it won't make anything any smoother, or faster - but you will know that its all built correctly !! futureproof (ish) __________________ fuck signatures

26-01-2008, 00:20	#16 (permalink)
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25-01-2008, 09:02	#3 (permalink)
stuntman cunning stunts Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 906	the site in question

25-01-2008, 09:40	#4 (permalink)
pgo i'm done, son Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,262	I'm seeing 35 errors... [Invalid] Markup Validation of http://www.lifestylepartitions.com/Content/Home.aspx?Pge=1 - W3C Markup Validator

25-01-2008, 09:56	#5 (permalink)
stuntman cunning stunts Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 906	I'm not. [Invalid] Markup Validation of http://www.lifestylepartitions.com/ - W3C Markup Validator So do you have to check every page?

25-01-2008, 10:03	#7 (permalink)
apple Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 32	correct me if iam wrong but i think your tags should be lowercase.

25-01-2008, 10:29	#10 (permalink)
haku shiro Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 2,077	Not only do you have to do every page, if you have dynamic pages you have to validate them in the different states that they come out. Well, you don't have to. But if you want valid code you have to.

25-01-2008, 11:53	#12 (permalink)
stuntman cunning stunts Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 906	^ yes you're quite right, oops, sorry. so i guess thats going to be 35 errrors per page......oooooh, is that bad? If I don't have any errors, will my site run faster / smoother?

26-01-2008, 11:52	#17 (permalink)
freelancr Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,076	Here is a really good firefox addon that shows you the validation status of EVERY page you load, you don't have to do anything other than look at it, ideal for during development and afterwards by clicking through every page to do a quick check. I often find a silly XHTML error can cause other problems, that if you didn't know about you could try to fix another way, and potentially compound your problems by only masking the symptoms of the bug. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/249

28-01-2008, 03:52	#18 (permalink)
stuntman cunning stunts Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 906	^ downloaded. edit : and it's superb, thanks.

28-01-2008, 08:10	#19 (permalink)
weldo now with added beard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Liverpool Posts: 5,273	of course ... if you're using dreamweaver - thats got all the validation tools you should need to build yer site from the start ... __________________ fuck signatures

28-01-2008, 11:58	#20 (permalink)
stuntman cunning stunts Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 906	Nah, I'm using some wierd bespoke really buggy web toolkit thing that a bloke in our IT Department built. I thought Dreamweaver was supposed to turn out a load of shit code?

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