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Mr Fred · 14-05-2003, 10:10

i knew i was right

Northernboy · 14-05-2003, 10:21

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it is not an identity-secure media unless an additional layer of verification / security (such as PGP) is used

Me too...

Stickman · 14-05-2003, 10:27

Call it a draw.

tomson · 14-05-2003, 16:11

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i knew i was right

I guess so - sorry I must have missed the bit where you mentioned encryption. But, then again if email is 100% secure already then why would anyone want to encrypt it...?

SagaLout · 14-05-2003, 18:20

An email is legally binding. In fact a customer accepting your quote and confirming the contract verbally is also legally binding. The problem with both of these is proving them in a court of Law.

Thats why its still better to get a sigature, and even better than that a witnessed signature.

tomson · 15-05-2003, 05:30

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An email is legally binding. In fact a customer accepting your quote and confirming the contract verbally is also legally binding. The problem with both of these is proving them in a court of Law.

That is my whole point - you can argue til you're blue in the face that something is legally binding but if it wont stand up in court then your whole argument is flawed.

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Thats why its still better to get a sigature

Exactly what i've said all along.

This has gone on far too long...

Mr Fred · 15-05-2003, 05:37

i only said it was a legal document arrghh fuck it next topic please

tomson · 15-05-2003, 05:42

Someone please close this bastard thread!!

SagaLout · 15-05-2003, 06:03

haha, sorry, I was just trying to point out that you're both right really. Just that its not so much a legal issue as one of trust.

Mr Fred · 15-05-2003, 06:10

haha

lucidcreations · 15-05-2003, 06:16

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consul · 09-06-2003, 18:37

Haha!

What a long thread! At any rate, here is what we usually do.

For small amounts we have it in email. For large amounts, most of our clients give us a contract to sign and we return them to our clients by mail. Yes, even though it is costly.

Another thing we do is we had our design services and hosting services prepaid. We give a 30-day full-refund guarantee. No questions asked. That way, when a client complain, we simply issue a refund if it cannot be resolved.

These design contract thing is all a matter of whether you trust your client or not. And the only way to get business going is to take a calculated risk. Yes, eventhough it is hard, sometimes you just have to give your trust first.

Yes, digital signatures may work. But, then, as has been said, it is easy to battle your way if you have the printed copies with signatures.

Take care everyone.

Now, maybe everyone can sleep to it.

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Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,275	i knew i was right

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Stickman Dr. Lucien Sanchez Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: UK Posts: 5,628	Call it a draw.

14-05-2003, 18:20	#25 (permalink)
SagaLout Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 144	An email is legally binding. In fact a customer accepting your quote and confirming the contract verbally is also legally binding. The problem with both of these is proving them in a court of Law. Thats why its still better to get a sigature, and even better than that a witnessed signature.

15-05-2003, 05:37	#27 (permalink)
Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,275	i only said it was a legal document arrghh fuck it next topic please

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tomson hairball Join Date: May 2003 Location: London Posts: 3,158	Someone please close this bastard thread!!

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SagaLout Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 144	haha, sorry, I was just trying to point out that you're both right really. Just that its not so much a legal issue as one of trust.

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Mr Fred Magazines™ Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Glasgow.. Posts: 11,275	haha

09-06-2003, 18:37	#32 (permalink)
consul Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 10	Haha! What a long thread! At any rate, here is what we usually do. For small amounts we have it in email. For large amounts, most of our clients give us a contract to sign and we return them to our clients by mail. Yes, even though it is costly. Another thing we do is we had our design services and hosting services prepaid. We give a 30-day full-refund guarantee. No questions asked. That way, when a client complain, we simply issue a refund if it cannot be resolved. These design contract thing is all a matter of whether you trust your client or not. And the only way to get business going is to take a calculated risk. Yes, eventhough it is hard, sometimes you just have to give your trust first. Yes, digital signatures may work. But, then, as has been said, it is easy to battle your way if you have the printed copies with signatures. Take care everyone. Now, maybe everyone can sleep to it.

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